Switzerland appears to have backed minaret ban

D.P. said:
A majority of the cantons that are not within Suisse Romand voted against the minarets. Within Suisse Romand a majority are not racist and the vote did not go through.

1/3rd of the swiss german population are neo nazis. Thats not dismissing, thats fact.
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So only one region should count? Grow up.
 
You have to remember that Switzerland is a VERY backward country, with women only getting the vote in 1971 and motorsport being banned for nearly 50 years until recently.

The irony is that most of the people praising Switzerland would stand no chance of moving over there. :D
 
Wicksta said:
with women only getting the vote in 1971
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This is a very good point. Complaining that Islam is backward because of Women's liberties and then saying that Switzerland is a beacon of freedom is a bit hypocritical. We've only just started treating brown people equally in the last 50 years, so let's not get ahead of ourselves as some kind of vastly morally superior culture.

The answer is tolerance towards other people and freedom for all. The government should be there to protect everyone's freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of movement - not infringe on it.
 
A good decision that sends a warning to those who seek the Islamification of European countries.

Far more tolerant than the Saudis too.
 
Hatter The Mad said:
What do you mean fixed? You have completely changed the meaning (and topic) of what I said.
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I changed one word. Your original question is pointless and irrelevant because Judaism isn't growing in Europe anywhere near as fast as Islam (in fact, it's probably declining) - if it was then yes, there would be a problem.

A much better comparison (albeit on a much smaller scale) is the situation in Israel/Palestine, where since the end of the 19th century you've had increasing numbers of immigrants leaving Europe and Russia for the Holy land, some of whom went with the express intent of creating a Jewish state (Zionism). The methods used include building new synagogues and settlements. Israel/Palestine is a good example of what happens when you let immigration go out of control, and fail to stop a foreign culture imposing itself in your country.
 
scorza said:
The methods used include building new synagogues and settlements. Israel/Palestine is a good example of what happens when you let immigration go out of control, and fail to stop a foreign culture imposing itself in your country.
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They're not imposing their will culturally though - in that instance, they're imposing their will militarily.

Your point is salient though - Israel/Palestine is a good example of people not being tolerant of other religious beliefs.
 
It seems that lots of people from both sides of the argument have the wrong end of the stick.

The banning of minarets is not a suppression of peoples right to religion. It was done because the place of minarets is not of that culture.

Minarets are used in middle eastern countries to call people to prayer, and thus in a predominantly Christian/atheist country it has no place.

No one has suggested that muslims don't have a right to pray, it's simply recognition that a country has ideals and a culture which it can stand behind.


For this, I admire the Swiss. The majority felt strongly enough about their culture that they were willing to vote on what is an un necessarily contentious issue.
 
From the Wiki page on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minaret_controversy_in_Switzerland

As of the date of the vote, there were four minarets in Switzerland, attached to mosques in Zürich, Geneva, Winterthur and Wangen bei Olten. These existing minarets will not be demolished.
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LOL!

Four Minarets was enough to inspire all this. I think its indicative of a deeper malaise within the Swiss culture.
 
daz said:
They're not imposing their will culturally though - in that instance, they're imposing their will militarily.
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Mass immigration to Israel started in 1880, the Zionist terrorist group that was the forerunner to the Israeli army started 30 or so years later (I think).

daz said:
Your point is salient though - Israel/Palestine is a good example of people not being tolerant of other religious beliefs.
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Except that the conflict is more about land than religion, just like the current Islamification of Europe.
 
ac1d1ty said:
It seems that lots of people from both sides of the argument have the wrong end of the stick.

The banning of minarets is not a suppression of peoples right to religion. It was done because the place of minarets is not of that culture.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8385893.stm
Supporters of a ban claimed that allowing minarets would represent the growth of an ideology and a legal system - Sharia law - which are incompatible with Swiss democracy
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How is that about being of culture? It's the ridiculous idea that a minaret has some power to Islamify a nation, which if true says a lot about the minds of the nations people.
 
Well done the Swiss
Its about time people stopped being PC in case they upset someone
Mosque in Rome, oh yes
Church in Mecca or anywhere in Saudi, on no
By law you are not allowed to celebrate christian holidays or wear a crucifix in Saudi
I am not religious btw


Anyway "Allah almighty knows best"
 
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