I do, they support some of the NHS systems that I support (they provide 2nd line etc)
bad news
I do, they support some of the NHS systems that I support (they provide 2nd line etc)
bad news
[TW]Fox;15442219 said:
As it's well know that although prices took a small drop when the VAT was reduced, it wasn't reduced by the full amount. What's going to happen when the VAT goes back up? It's just going to have 2.5% on top of the price as it stands, meaning more expensive than it was.
The government was trying to crack down on this to ensure that prices had fallen full whack, so this was a policy which was happening.
Basically, us "little" people are struggling at the moment due to the recession, lack of credit from the banks, lack of support from the banks, the ever increasing price of living, petrol and energy etc etc etc. Our employers should be helping us by providing a wage which matches the increased costs we face each day. Don't you think so?
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Did you read the bit about these staff working for the DWP?
The strike will affect actual monetary payments to customers including state pensions, income support, social fund, job seekers allowance, winter fuels payments (if it gets colder) - it may even shut down the "shop a benefit cheat" system.
It's going to have a massive impact - the government aren't happy about it at all as thier services are being put at risk - there's massive pressure coming from the government to get HP to meet the demands.
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The rise in the cost of living only continues up because people expect these anual wage increases.
The wage increases mostly inthe public sector need to be stopped!
The wage increases mostly inthe public sector need to be stopped!
Slightly out of context, but why? I'm not trying to be an ass here but it does beg the question, doesn't it? Companies have to comply with a hell of a lot of employment laws, but pay rises if the cost of services go up isn't one of them.
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Why are you struggling due to the recession, you are employed and you have not taken a pay cut?
The things you want to buy have got cheaper as a result of the recession.
Oil crashed from $150 and petrol came down from 130p a litre as a result of the recession.
Air travel hit rock bottom prices this year as a result of the recession.
Mortgage interest rates are at unprecedented lows.
The recession has benefited most people who remained in work.
Yet you think you are struggling? Why?
I know you're not trying to be an ass, just like Fox also isn't. But if I have a point to put across, I put it acros, if that means me coming across as brash then so be it.
Yes I know there is no law with regards to pay rises and meeting inflation. However for those who are good at their job and provide a valuable service (like HP do!), they should not be punished for it. By not even meeting inflation they will be 'punished' by having less disposable money, than they would have done... for what? Doing their job? It's ridiculous.
What about you then platypus? Are you getting a raise this year annually and if not, are you happy about it? Do you feel you deserve one?
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You know von, that one quote is a endgame answer to almost all debates.
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And the sooner it dissapears up it's own **** the better imo.
I.e. the cowards way out.
I happen to think I deserve some protection against compulsory redundancy and that I deserve a pay rise so I'm going to damn well fight for it.
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It's hardly cowardice to stick by your principles and face possible long term financial hardship why you find another job. If anything it is courageous.
Striking IS cowardice.
But why is it the companies responsibility to sort that problem? Inflation sucks, we all hate it. You have several options to beat it:
a) Work for a company with a set in stone payrise policy
b) Move to a company offerng you a higher wage
c) Change job roles
etc.
You need to be proactive. It's not somebody elses responsibility to sort your standard of living out for you.
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I'm not struggling as it stands Fox. However down the line I might do. I'm (hopefully) soon to be a first time buyer, if the cost of energy, food, waste, water etc keeps rising as they are, without my wage going up, then I certainly will struggle.
I'm pretty sure petrol never hit that level in our area. However the cost of diesel must not have been far off, it's currently around 110 in our area.
Although Mortgage rates are at a low, lower than they have been for some time (if ever), the level of credit you can receive is hampered. The need for a huge deposit (25% in a lot of cases, rather than 0% previously) means more troubles for us. yes you can very well say it was the lapse lending from banks which caused some if not most of the depression and recession, however the posts have been moved.
the option to move jobs as well isn't available to the majority of us!
You'd have struggled before the recession, before the recession the price of fuel and energy was climbing relentlessly and house prices were at an all time high.
I don't see why not, especially as you've no need to quit your current job whilst you search for a new one.
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I'm an employee of this company.
No pay rises in the last 2 years.
There is no such thing as inflationary related pay increase.
Pay for performance - so we make a big profit.
Then we get this......
and yes we were asked to take cuts this year, mandatory in the US.
No pay rises in the last 2 years.
There is no such thing as inflationary related pay increase.
Pay for performance - so we make a big profit.
Then we get this......
and yes we were asked to take cuts this year, mandatory in the US.
I didn't think you where being brash at all, and your point is both valid and sound.
I don't know, actually my annual review is next week. I got an above inflation pay rise last year, and will be expecting one again this year - if I don't get one I will at least expect/demand a "with inflation" pay rise. As for deserving one? Well I'm good at my job, I have high productivity, and if they don't give me a pay rise I'll tell them I'm looking for a new job.
To be honest if every did this then it would do considerably more for employee rights than striking ever would. Companies would be forced to improve conditions to retain staff or face massive costs in recruitment and training time after time. The number of people I used to work with that would moan constantly about how bad our employer was and then not do anything about it was silly.
[TW]Fox;15442648 said:
Again, I'm not talking about the standards of my living, which is fine, see my previous post.
And no, it's not the companies responsbility, however in my eyes they should have some. They are still making massive profits and taking in massive revenue but he people who are making the majority of this aren't being rewarded, which is rubbish. Instead the fat cats get richer, the shareholders who do generally nothing, get richer but the people on the bottom suffer. Yes it's how it's always been but maybe I'm just an idealist and think it should change!
You A) B) C) options for the vast majority aren't possible. Majority of companies don't offer a set in stone rise (only mainly health services, police etc), Moving isn't an option for many, as there aren't many jobs to move into, and changing job roles again really isn't an option for many.
It's a catch 22 situation I guess.
I didn't think you where being brash at all, and your point is both valid and sound.
I don't know, actually my annual review is next week. I got an above inflation pay rise last year, and will be expecting one again this year - if I don't get one I will at least expect/demand a "with inflation" pay rise. As for deserving one? Well I'm good at my job, I have high productivity, which doesn't matter one bit I know. But if they don't give me a pay rise I'll tell them I'm looking for a new job.