Russian train bombed - at least 30 dead

The point is he didn't kill people in the name of god. Whereas Muslim terror cells are clearly expressing their hate for the Western cultures and that Islam should be the superior faith.

"He who fights that Islam should be superior fights in Allah's cause"
Muhammad, prophet of Islam
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Go and check out the "Religion of Peace". Quite the religion of peace isn't it when they have a ticker on their site to count how many terror attacks Muslims have commited since 9/11. Over 14,000. And the argument that the majority are in their own countries is not a valid one.

Then the Muslims get a bit ****y when Switzerland decide against having their skylines dominated by a bunch of ugly Islamic buildings. GTFO.
 
K1LLSW1TCH said:
The point is he didn't kill people in the name of god. Whereas Muslim terror cells are clearly expressing their hate for the Western cultures and that Islam should be the superior faith.
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I'd argue that he presented everything as killing people in the name of god, and definitely that Christianity was a superior faith to Islam.

However I'm not going to argue further, I'm not anti christian any more than I am anti religion in general, I am of the opinion that Bush and his administration are no better than religious terrorists and have the blood of a lot more innocents on their hands.
 
K1LLSW1TCH said:
Then the Muslims get a bit ****y when Switzerland decide against having their skylines dominated by a bunch of ugly Islamic buildings. GTFO.
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“The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and Muslims our soldiers…”

Lovely bunch. :D
 
K1LLSW1TCH said:
The point is he didn't kill people in the name of god. Whereas Muslim terror cells are clearly expressing their hate for the Western cultures and that Islam should be the superior faith.



Go and check out the "Religion of Peace". Quite the religion of peace isn't it when they have a ticker on their site to count how many terror attacks Muslims have commited since 9/11. Over 14,000. And the argument that the majority are in their own countries is not a valid one.

Then the Muslims get a bit ****y when Switzerland decide against having their skylines dominated by a bunch of ugly Islamic buildings. GTFO.
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There are over 1 billion Muslims worldwide. The ones complaining about the minarets ban in Switzerland most likely aren't terrorists. That's so ridiculous if you just bunch them all together like that. Yeah, all Muslims are terrorists and they all just condone acts of terror. :rolleyes:

And how many of those 'terror' attacks have been committed in Afghanistan and Iraq since 9/11?
 
K1LLSW1TCH said:
Go and check out the "Religion of Peace". Quite the religion of peace isn't it when they have a ticker on their site to count how many terror attacks Muslims have commited since 9/11. Over 14,000. And the argument that the majority are in their own countries is not a valid one.

Then the Muslims get a bit ****y when Switzerland decide against having their skylines dominated by a bunch of ugly Islamic buildings. GTFO.
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Like I said in cruder but *'d terms, nutjobs are nutjobs, it doesn't matter what religion they are, or who they say they're doing it for, they're nutters, sticking the word religious in front of that is somewhat superfluous.
 
Abraham said:
obviously his love with oil was on a par with his religious preaching, but he still attributed all of his actions to god:


Not sure what's wrong with me specifying Christian God?
there are many beliefs of gods, and both Jews and Christians at least have "God"
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Source for that quote. You realise that Christian, Jews and Muslims all worship the same God right?
 
scorza said:
Source for that quote. You realise that Christian, Jews and Muslims all worship the same God right?
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Which quote?
In theory yes, but seeing as all three think the other two are wrong then I'd make a distinction as to what religion a person was when they referred to God, especially considering that they can't all worship the same God because he doesn't exist.
 
Chimerical said:
There are over 1 billion Muslims worldwide. The ones complaining about the minarets ban in Switzerland most likely aren't terrorists. That's so ridiculous if you just bunch them all together like that. Yeah, all Muslims are terrorists and they all just condone acts of terror. :rolleyes:

And how many of those 'terror' attacks have been committed in Afghanistan and Iraq since 9/11?
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Can you read? I did say that the argument that quite a lot of terror attacks by Muslims are carried out in their country is not really relevant. We weren't talking about where the attacks were in general, I was raising the point a the sheer volume of Muslims who seem to think it's acceptable and holy to go around killing tens of thousands of innocent people for absolutely no reason whatsoever other than their religious beliefs.

2009.12.01 (Swat, Pakistan) - A teen suicide bomber murders a lawmaker inside his home.
2009.11.30 (Mosul, Iraq) - Muslim gunmen ambush a car carrying a family from a religious minority. The father is killed. Two women and a child are injured.
2009.11.30 (Pattani, Thailand) - A man is shot to death inside his home by Islamic radicals.
2009.11.29 (Nimroz, Afghanistan) - Six Afghan police officers are murdered in cold blood by a Talibani disguised as one of them.
2009.11.29 (Ghalbiyah, Iraq) - Suspected al-Qaeda bombers take down another Iraqi.
2009.11.29 (Kohat, Pakistan) - At least thirty people celebrating a holiday are blown to bits when a suicide car bomber plows into a crowded market.
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But because the majority of those countries are Islamic predominately then that makes it all right does it?

Let's see the equivalent list from this year please of the Christian suicide bombers. :rolleyes:
 
K1LLSW1TCH said:
Let's see the equivalent list from this year please of the Christian suicide bombers. :rolleyes:
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Obviously they're not suicide bombers, but the civillian deaths at the hands of US forces are pretty much equivalent in my eyes, the toll of which for last year just in afghanistan was over 2000
 
Abraham said:
Obviously they're not suicide bombers, but the civillian deaths at the hands of US forces are pretty much equivalent in my eyes, the toll of which for last year just in afghanistan was over 2000
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The difference being extremists TARGET civilians.
 
Abraham said:
Obviously they're not suicide bombers, but the civillian deaths at the hands of US forces are pretty much equivalent in my eyes, the toll of which for last year just in afghanistan was over 2000
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I can see the point you're trying to make but it isn't the same.

The Coalition forces do not go into peoples homes and purposely murder innocent civilians. Unlike these Islamic nut jobs who seem to take great pleasure in stopping a family in a car and gunning down the father right in front of his wife and children, in cold blood. I wouldn't be surprised if the barbarians beheaded him right in front of them either... truly horrific.
 
Abraham said:
Which quote?
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The quote in your post I quoted.

Abraham said:
In theory yes, but seeing as all three think the other two are wrong then I'd make a distinction as to what religion a person was when they referred to God, especially considering that they can't all worship the same God because he doesn't exist.
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No in theory about it, it is the same God. Jesus was a Jew, Islam regards Jesus as a prophet which they wouldn't do if he was on about a different God.
 
K1LLSW1TCH said:
I can see the point you're trying to make but it isn't the same.

The Coalition forces do not go into peoples homes and purposely murder innocent civilians. Unlike these Islamic nut jobs who seem to take great pleasure in stopping a family in a car and gunning down the father right in front of his wife and children, in cold blood. I wouldn't be surprised if the barbarians beheaded him right in front of them either... truly horrific.
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They've bombed hospitals in the past, and think nothing of setting an apache on a house because they think an "insurgent" is in there.
There is obviously a difference, but I don't think it's anywhere near as wide a gap as you're making out.
 
scorza said:
The quote in your post I quoted.
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I posted several quotes, you didn't quote a specific one, hence asking you which one.
No in theory about it, it is the same God. Jesus was a Jew, Islam regards Jesus as a prophet which they wouldn't do if he was on about a different God.
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The whole thing is in theory, unless you've got proof that any god exists?
Not sure why you're getting het up about me making a distinction that GWB is a christian.

Islam regard Jesus as a prophet and not as the son of god, so they think Christianity is wrong. Jews, the same. They all come from the same religious routes, but seeing as they're all wrong, what's your point?
 
Abraham said:
They've bombed hospitals in the past, and think nothing of setting an apache on a house because they think an "insurgent" is in there.
There is obviously a difference, but I don't think it's anywhere near as wide a gap as you're making out.
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I think there is a gap that is very wide indeed. The incidents you mention, the hospitals were obviously disused / used a base by terrorists or insurgents. I see the point about destroying civilian houses and this can come from fighting what is essentially a Guerilla war. While that doesn't make the incidents any better the Coalition do not actively seek out civilians to murder in cold blood purely because of them turning against a religion or having different beliefs.
 
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