FreeviewHD (DVB-T2) starting 2nd December

Glaucus · 2 Dec 2009 at 14:52

derkaderka said:
Sorry must have not made my point correctly
DVB-T can be used to package HD signals BUT instead of doing this
They decided to create a new format , for what technical reason ?
None that I could see
monetary reasons , I can see a few

I don't know the ins and outs but there will certainly be technical reasons. As the rest of Europe is upgrading to this format in the future.

Treebiter · 2 Dec 2009 at 14:54

I have Freesat and Freeview built into my Panny TX-L37G15. I have both hooked up and use FS for HD and FV for Dave. Will there be any advantages over this setup with FV HD?

Jez · 2 Dec 2009 at 14:55

AcidHell2 said:
I don't know the ins and outs but there will certainly be technical reasons. As the rest of Europe is upgrading to this format in the future.

It is much more efficient, and makes total sense with the bandwidth demands of HD broadcasts. I dont see how people can say that there are no technical advantages :confused:

Glaucus · 2 Dec 2009 at 14:57

Jez said:
It is much more efficient, and makes total sense with the bandwidth demands of HD broadcasts. I dont see how people can say that there are no technical advantages

Yep just be googling. 30% more information over DVB-T.

Fishman · 2 Dec 2009 at 14:59

OK a little bit of reading later, looks like 60% more bandwidth per signal strength = more HD channels possible for T2.

Its a pain in the short term because if it was DVB-T wrapped I could get it today I expect through my computer just like the crystal palace HD trials from years ago.

Jez · 2 Dec 2009 at 15:02

TBH, if you are that interested in receiving early "test" HD broadcasts, then why didnt you do it years ago via satellite

This is hardly exciting nor interesting, and certainly not worth buying special equipment for at the moment, if you have waited this long for broadcast HD, then why not leave it until its mainstream over DVBT2.

Fishman · 2 Dec 2009 at 16:36

Not really bothered from the standpoint of watching HD more of a can my computer get it challenge

Hxc · 2 Dec 2009 at 16:39

divosuk said:
And it will probably only be viable if your BB connection can get faster than 8Mb. The box can handle it, but there's not much chance of you getting the transmission being fast enough to give you a great picture.

??

The BT vision box does not stream TV via the net; it's a freeview box.

Westyfield2 · 2 Dec 2009 at 17:04

Treebiter said:
I have Freesat and Freeview built into my Panny TX-L37G15. I have both hooked up and use FS for HD and FV for Dave. Will there be any advantages over this setup with FV HD?

Oooh, G15... very nice :cool:

.

The only thing you might find is like how currently FreeSat is missing a few of the FreeView channels (Five US, Fiver, Dave, Virgin 1, UKTV History, Sky Three, Viva, The Hits and Sky Sports News, etc), they might eventually be some channels on FreeView HD that don't go to FreeSat HD... and probably vice versa. It's licensing or something isn't it?

Hence why I want to know:

Westyfield2 said:
Do we know any timescale for availability of DVB-T2 receivers?
4. Integrated DVB-T2 & Integrated Freesat (e.g. Panasonic G10 but with DVB-T2 instead of DVB-T) <--------- That's what I'm really waiting for!

JaFFa · 2 Dec 2009 at 17:18

Hxc said:
??

The BT vision box does not stream TV via the net; it's a freeview box.

It does both. On demand is streamed along with some sports/ movie/ kids channels that aren't on freeview. It's the same as the tiscali TV box really.

QlimaxUK · 2 Dec 2009 at 17:19

oh great so my HD Ready IS NOT READY!!! :mad:

SiriusB · 2 Dec 2009 at 17:46

stockhausen said:
So far as I can understand it, only Londoners who receive the Crystal Palace signal will get Freeview HD in time for the World Cup, everyone else in the Greater London area will have to wait for 2012 which seems a wee bit odd for the largest conurbation in the country (BBC)

You do realise the Crystal Palace tower is the most powerful in the country and serves around 11 million people? The "groups" are the names of the antennas and their support repeater towers, not the area of people who will get the new HD Freeview.

daz · 2 Dec 2009 at 17:57

Crystal Palace transmitter is 220 metres tall. Like a mini Eiffel Tower.

titchard · 2 Dec 2009 at 18:00

QlimaxUK said:
oh great so my HD Ready IS NOT READY!!!

It is ready for some HD - just not for this.

Rich

Naff8000 · 2 Dec 2009 at 18:13

I get bored with freeview within 14 seconds. Anymore top gear Dave repeats and I'll go crazy!

Westyfield2 · 2 Dec 2009 at 18:52

QlimaxUK said:
oh great so my HD Ready IS NOT READY!!!

It is ready to display HD content. :confused:

It will not tune FreeView HD as it does not support the DVB-T2 standard. If you were sold it as "supports DVB-T2" and you now find it doesn't, get a refund.... otherwise shocker as product doesn't support standard released after product purchased.

muon · 2 Dec 2009 at 22:51

What did people think HD Ready meant. Until recently, no HD Ready TV had a Freesat HD tuner either.

QlimaxUK · 2 Dec 2009 at 22:55

but i want my current built-in freeview tuner to be magic and find HD channels

am i asking too much?

starfighter · 3 Dec 2009 at 07:09

QlimaxUK said:
but i want my current built-in freeview tuner to be magic and find HD channels am i asking too much?

Aww boo hoo, new things carried on being invented after you bought your TV. :rolleyes:

Virdi · 3 Dec 2009 at 08:35

is there a site where we can check to see which Freeview boxes and TV (Tuners) do have 'DVB-T2' ?

...As when I bought my Sony W3000 - I'm sure 'What HiFi' Magazine Stated that it had a Freeview HD Tuner???