[TW]Fox;15448371 said:It might be the core business but it generates very little profit.
It will generate enough profit.
sadly this will be another case of an unpopular but correct action vs an irrational, stupid but popular action. I dont like the chances of the correct action being taken given labour's track record in such decisions.
It will generate enough profit.
If the bank made a loss this year despite £5bn from the investment side of the business where exactly is this profit going to come from?
[TW]Fox;15448466 said:How you define 'enough' profit? Clearly it doesn't generate 'enough' profit or there would be no need to seek alternative profit avenues?
Except the general public (taxpayers) are effectively 70% of the shareholders so their opinion is relevant... or do we let HMG do what it wants?
I don't work in that industry and to be honest I've no clue how the bonuses would work for them. The point I was trying to make is it would ridiculously unfair to use the carrot and stick approach and then not actually provide the carrot if they reach the goal you've set out. That sector of the bank made £5bn profit, they don't have any control over other sections which are unprofitable.These are discretionary bonuses - at no point has anyone in the government argued that people shouldn't get what they are contractually entitled to. I guess you must work in the financial services industry, because in the real economy I've never heard of a discretionary bonus being paid out if the overall group isn't profitable. For whose benefit is the company being run - the employees or the shareholders?
Just a thought, maybe the best way of increasing shareholder value is to sell the investment banking arm of RBS?
Precisely, and these profits will have to be made by people who take a gamble or two..
It's amazing then whilst the economy was strong, growing and prosperous; everyone was quite happy to reap the benefits of their work. People were quite happy to borrow money to fund their second home investment or 42” plasma TVs, for example.
the correct decision for the shareholders is to pay the bonus.. anything else is not in the financial interest of the taxpayers.
Please show me where the taxpayer is benefitting from this arrangement? RBS was on the brink last time I checked...
You don't have a bank account?I've never had anything for free from a bank...;EVER!
I don't work in that industry and to be honest I've no clue how the bonuses would work for them. The point I was trying to make is it would ridiculously unfair to use the carrot and stick approach and then not actually provide the carrot if they reach the goal you've set out. That sector of the bank made £5bn profit, they don't have any control over other sections which are unprofitable.
Would you have preferred it if the investment bank didn't make £5bn?
Welcome to life, it's not fair. The company I work for made a profit last year, a big profit in the UK but some losses in continental Europe dragged the group as a whole down. Guess what, we get told there's no money for payrises or discretionary bonuses this year and next.