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Fermi March?

This is funny.
If Fermi launches in March (Assuming available stock)
That's like 6 months until September. Assuming ATI are going to be clever about this, they would have there 6870 out.
 
Martini1991 said:
This is funny.
If Fermi launches in March (Assuming available stock)
That's like 6 months until September. Assuming ATI are going to be clever about this, they would have there 6870 out.
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I would appear that Nvidia aren't too worried about ATI at the moment. I'm sure that a large corporate business like they are have clear market strategy in place. We've already been reading that their new Fermi architecture isn't primarily focused on graphics and gaming as are the ATI cards. I think tis is important to remember. Nvidia are building technology for the future rather than just upgrading there current architecture, like they have done in previous generations. Therefore, it's important they get it right now. That said however, they are loosing a big slice of the early DX11 cake but then gamers aren't really seeing the benefit of that yet either.
 
Admiral Huddy said:
I would appear that Nvidia aren't too worried about ATI at the moment. I'm sure that a large corporate business like they are have clear market strategy in place. We've already been reading that their new Fermi architecture isn't primarily focused on graphics and gaming as are the ATI cards. Nvidia are building technology for the future rather than just upgrading there current architecture, like they have done in previous generations. Therefore, it's important they get it right now. That said however, they are loosing a big slice of the early DX11 cake but then gamers aren't really seeing the benefit of that yet either.
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But if any gamer just want to upgrade/build a rig, they're going to go for the 5800/5770 series as opposed an Nvidia card.
But, that said, isn't ATI's new architecture like 2011?
But, if Fermi's beaten 6 months after release, then it's kind of pitiful.
 
I agree. All I'm saying is that there's a lot of investment for both manufacturers (and Intel too) into a very niche market place. These cards have to produce more than just graphics grunt but provide also a parallel processing workhorse too.
But, if Fermi's beaten 6 months after release, then it's kind of pitiful.
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Again, you maybe spot on but then NVIDIA will have already build the architecture which wil see them through for years to come. Something that maybe AMD may have to consider at some point. At some point, it's always back to the drawing board. One is always playing catchup and at this point it's NVIDIA, for the consumer, this is great news.. Worry when this isn't the case.
 
I fully understand ATI may be in the same dilema as Nvidia are now, when ATI change architecture, but right now, it's impressive as they've gained around 80% on there old generation.
 
lot of debate on fermi, lot of it not too great from a gamers point of view. Clocks are expected to be lower than hoped for, yields poor due to its size and while it should beat the ati single chip solutions it may not be that much of a gain. Whatever the truth of that the missed targets, another revision to get back and prepare it really is looking that they have had significant problems with it.

And pretty much everyone but Fudzilla seems to think not much hope of it until march.
 
The other issue for gamers will be Fermi will be expensive, but not entirely due to its GFX performance. All the "extra" none GFX features in Fermi will add cost but not extra FPS and gamers will have to decide if these features are worth the extra cost. It will be hard when Fermi arrives to make a fair comparison to the ATI alternative as gaming performance alone per pound will probably favour ATI.
 
Martini1991 said:
This is funny.
If Fermi launches in March (Assuming available stock)
That's like 6 months until September. Assuming ATI are going to be clever about this, they would have there 6870 out.
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Cards will be getting too fast; that only a 30" TFT - will do them justice, unless we have a shedload of DX11 titles arrive, even so.......:confused:


~Ant
 
thebandit said:
The other issue for gamers will be Fermi will be expensive, but not entirely due to its GFX performance. All the "extra" none GFX features in Fermi will add cost but not extra FPS and gamers will have to decide if these features are worth the extra cost. It will be hard when Fermi arrives to make a fair comparison to the ATI alternative as gaming performance alone per pound will probably favour ATI.
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ATI have always been the cheaper alternative - I can't see that changing any time soon. However, it is not a given that gamers will be charged the full-on Fermi price. I would imagine nVidia will subsidise the gaming version of Fermi through sales in the HPC/other sectors, so whilst gamers will certainly be paying something extra for the on-GPU processess that are not used in a gaming environment, I don't think it will be anywhere near the true Fermi price.
 
Antx777 said:
Cards will be getting too fast; that only a 30" TFT - will do them justice, unless we have a shedload of DX11 titles arrive, even so.......:confused:


~Ant
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It is the usual cycle.. As more advanced games appear they will tax the new hardware - that's what the 'TWIMTBP' and equivalent programmes are really about; if the software manufacturers stopped bothering to make games that were graphically more intense the hardware manufacturers would be in a pickle.
 
dustofnations said:
It is the usual cycle.. As more advanced games appear they will tax the new hardware - that's what the 'TWIMTBP' and equivalent programmes are really about; if the software manufacturers stopped bothering to make games that were graphically more intense the hardware manufacturers would be in a pickle.
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Well this is the problem isn't it. It's not the usual cycle we've been acustom to. There aren't any games that are testing cards to their limits and there's not likely to be for the foreseeable future until next gen consoles stroll in. This is partly why an ageing 8800gtx can still play modern titles at decent settings. Let's face it, 80% frame increase on a game already providing 45fps isn't really going to improve your visul experience. As i've said before, most modern cards are like having a brick under the gas pedal of a Porche. Nvidia are looking to other corners of the market, to sell the cards. Multiple processing is one of them. Makes sense.
 
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