straight peeps in gay bars seems to = trouble :(

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something I was talking about with friends this weekend. I don't know if its gotten like this up and down the country but there are utterly tons of straight people coming the local gay bar and it seems to have increased dramatically over the last year or so.

Now I can understand it to a point, if you like certain types of music then gay bars do tend to have the best baseline and house and many an artist caught a break from playing a bar that was once called Kudos in Birmingham (now club chic) along with many famous artists playing them, I presume they pay better due to the dinky factor of most of the customers, (dinky = dual income no kids) plus the caberet acts and such are usually hugely amusing.

Whilst straight folks are welcomed with open arms the sheer amount of trouble thats been caused over the last couple of months is horrendous. In ten years of going to the local theres been only a hand full of kick offs but recently theres been bucket loads and it always seems to focus on the straight lads and I cant figure out why they would go to a gay bar, get ratt arsed, become homophobic and end up in a punch up. Or they start hitting on lesbians and get majorly offended when rebuffed. Or they get hit on by a guy and instead of a simple no thanks im straight, they head butt the poor sod as happened end of last month ??!!

Two weekends ago four lads beat the crap out of the bouncer who was trying to remove them for being hugely homophobic at the top of their lungs in the beer garden. Ive never seen anything like it.

its a shame and its just appalling.
 
if theyre chavvy then no suprise rly. maybe they should employ 2 bouncers?
 
I think part of the problem with straight blokes is chasing the women. I know quite a few straight women who go to gay clubs to get away from blokes constantly truing to chat them up, due to this excess of straight women and lack of straight blokes straight blokes have decided it's a place to easily pick women up... :rolleyes:

Having said that I know quite a few straight girls and blokes that go to gay bars, normally for the music or beauce a few of my gay friends want to go. Never actually been myself though so can only comment on third hand info.
 
I'd be surprised if the trouble couldn't have been prevented by turning away big groups of straight guys. This is what happens in the village in Manchester and afaik they don't have any more of a problem with straight people than gay people. The bi's are tricky buggers though.
 
SfnX said:
if theyre chavvy then no suprise rly. maybe they should employ 2 bouncers?
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we have three now. only ever used to have one, nic bloke called dave, member of a harley davidson wing. looked hard as nails, wouldnt say boo to a goose unless provoked bless him.

Sawell said:
Perhaps they're unaware it's a gay bar?
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I think the word Rainbows emblazoned in purple across the front and the fact its been open 11 years gives it away.

Abraham said:
I'd be surprised if the trouble couldn't have been prevented by turning away big groups of straight guys. This is what happens in the village in Manchester and afaik they don't have any more of a problem with straight people than gay people. The bi's are tricky buggers though.
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how can you tell. By that rule I wouldnt get in with my friends either. should i have to wear pink, have floppy hands and speak with a high pitched voice to get in :confused::confused:
 
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Neverwhere said:
I think the word Rainbows emblazoned in purple across the front and the fact its been open 11 years gives it away.
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You'd be surprised. A few years ago a friend and I were in Paris and ended up in the gay quarter (can't recall the name). We drank in two gay bars (one was very obviously gay - pink boas around the place, ABBA coming out of the stereo, and other stereotypes - whilst the other was classier, but still obvious to me. The clientèle, the pink back lighting, the one 'male' toilet). However, my friend had no idea that they were gay; even when I went to the toilet and came back to find him being chatted up by two lovely American men.
I told him once we had left, and mentioned the 'ladies' at the end of the bar and he was horrified even though he said that he had fun once we immediately left.

Just goes to prove that there are some very ignorant and sheltered people out there!
 
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I've been to a few with mates for giggles etc and experienced no trouble. I guess we get drunk and think it will be funny. Plus we know the bar manager so cheap night. One thing I will say in defence of the 'aggressors' in this case, gay men and my experience don't seem to understand, 'no' 'no thanks' 'sorry im straight' or being pushed slightly away. On several occasions i've nearly ended up in fights because they don't seem to understand a refusal.

*I use the term nearly in a fight because im queuing at the bar and getting my behind tickled or something. In this instance I don't really want to walk away but in a couple cases they dont take the hint and won't back off until you get aggressive

In the case of the lads beating up the bouncer it is of course in-excusable
 
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Neverwhere said:
how can you tell. By that rule I wouldnt get in with my friends either. should i have to wear pink, have floppy hands and speak with a high pitched voice to get in :confused::confused:
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Having not worked the doors in the village myself I can't say exactly, but I'd imagine you just take a slightly harder line on the normal no groups of lads rule. It's usually easy enough to spot people who might be trouble later on, in this situation it sounds like it would be doubly so.
 
jakeke said:
Are they allowed to refuse entry to people because they're straight? Seems a little harsh
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Not as such, but you can refuse entry to anyone you want really, you're not allowed to illegally discriminate to do so, so you couldn't actually do it on the basis of someone being straight, but you can easily restrict certain groups, based on clothing style etc.
 
Abraham said:
Having not worked the doors in the village myself I can't say exactly, but I'd imagine you just take a slightly harder line on the normal no groups of lads rule. It's usually easy enough to spot people who might be trouble later on, in this situation it sounds like it would be doubly so.
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Well i can see your point, im not a bouncer but I guess you would get a feel for these things after being in the job for a few years. its just all very disheartening, It just seems like homophobic incidents up and down the country ahve just exploded, I dont know if its the recession, or a full moon or something in the water...

come in, your all welcome, but show some respect. you wouldn't think it was difficult.
 
back in 6th form at school, a few of the guys went to a gay bar and came back completely disgusted ranting "uggghhh, there were all these guys kissing and touching each other up, it was disgusting!" we couldn't beleive how stupid they were, and how immature they were acting, it was a gay bar, they knew it, what were they expecting? :/ morons, I knew a number of girls who would go to gay bars just because they wanted a night out where they wouldn't be leered at constantly, and any guys chatting to them would jut be friendly instead of after something
 
mac1st3 said:
I knew a number of girls who would go to gay bars just because they wanted a night out where they wouldn't be leered at constantly, and any guys chatting to them would jut be friendly instead of after something
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As previously mentioned by someone else, that's the reason a lot of these groups of straight guys go, that is to say the ones who are too homophobic to otherwise go.
 
Neverwhere said:
Well i can see your point, im not a bouncer but I guess you would get a feel for these things after being in the job for a few years. its just all very disheartening, It just seems like homophobic incidents up and down the country ahve just exploded, I dont know if its the recession, or a full moon or something in the water...

come in, your all welcome, but show some respect. you wouldn't think it was difficult.
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It's the same people that would be trouble in a normal bar I'd imagine, those that are so stupid that even though they're homophobic they'll go in a gay bar (for the women trying to avoid men like them, or otherwise). They're usually not too hard to spot.
 
There is a gay bar in Melbourne that wont even let Lesbians in Apparently:p

WTF is with that? :confused:
 
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