If you can donate some money it would be nice

Sawell said:
The amount of disrespect you show them is shameful, especially as historic members of your family probably died or were injured themselves to ensure you had access to the life you lead now. You would shun charities helping them? Shame on you.
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I would give if they were defending our country from invasion from another country, not to safeguard the oil supply in a country by telling it is a mission to help the people in the country, please don't compare the 2nd World War to the current 'war' in Afghanistan.
 
Dutch Guy said:
I would give if they were defending our country from invasion from another country, not to safeguard the oil supply in a country by telling it is a mission to help the people in the country, please don't compare the 2nd World War to the current 'war' in Afghanistan.
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Don't punish the soldiers for the policy of their leaders.
 
vonhelmet said:
but I'd expect their employer - the Army, and by extension the government - to take care of them if they're injured in the line of work.
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Why would the Government pump money into helping injured soliders when the public are happy to fund that through charitable donations.
 
Dutch Guy said:
I would give if they were defending our country from invasion from another country, not to safeguard the oil supply in a country by telling it is a mission to help the people in the country, please don't compare the 2nd World War to the current 'war' in Afghanistan.
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You're either a really bad troll or just an utterly stupid human being.
 
vonhelmet said:
I don't think they're safe in the same way, but I'd expect their employer - the Army, and by extension the government - to take care of them if they're injured in the line of work.
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Agreed, which is why i will not be donating anything, they where sent there by the government and, IMO, the government can foot the bill.

And on another note, of course a soldier has a choice not to go to war if he doesnt agree with the reasoning behind it, he may get court martialed or maybe put in prioson, I'm not aware of the laws but they wont die for a bogus cause. Everyone has a conscience and it is there responsibility to use it.
 
Please forgive me if I'm being ignorant, but aren't soldiers in Afghanistan partly helping to prevent the destabilisation of Pakistan which is one of the Taliban's aims? Pakistan has nuclear weapons that could potentially be sold to Al Qaeda?
 
You can't sue your employer for compensation if you've knowingly put yourself in harms way.

Volenti non fit injuria (Latin: "to a willing person, no injury is done" or "no injury is done to a person who consents") is a common law doctrine which means that if someone willingly places themselves in a position where harm might result, knowing that some degree of harm might result, they cannot then sue if harm actually results. Volenti only applies to the risk which a reasonable person would consider them as having assumed by their actions; thus a boxer consents to being hit, and to the injuries that might be expected from being hit, but does not consent to (for example) his opponent striking him with an iron bar, or punching him outside the usual terms of boxing. Volenti is also known as a "voluntary assumption of risk."
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If you want to donate to help these individuals then that's your choice.

I do because I have family in Afghanistan and would dread if something happened to them.
 
Some of you may not agree with the current wars but the live rounds being fired are still paid for from your taxes. The soldiers go where they are told. If they get injured we can still say thanks by donating to a charity that helps them.

You dont have to donate. We dont live in a dictatorship yet.
 
Regardless of current activity the armed forces does more passively than is even appreciated. The very nature of having one of the best armed forces in the world gives us a passive defence that frankly without would see us in a lot of difficulty.

The reason we have this defence is due to our countrymen being willing to fight for us and our way of life. This, in essence, is one of the things that brings us together and makes us such a united kingdom. That is, until we have blind narrow-minded people that claim to be part of this country but uphold none of the values that have stayed with us throughout our history and have made us strong.

I'm somewhat ashamed to live in unity with individuals who apparently lack the capacity to value or appreciate a young man or woman willingly being open to personal suffering to ensure that his family and his countrymen do not share the same fate. And then those same individuals shun him for asking for so little back.

Would you leave your dog to suffer if he protected you from an attack and in doing so was left wounded? After all, he was just doing what he felt was right. Or is it simply the dog’s fault for getting involved and as such he should be left in pain?

Human compassion is a funny thing, mainly due to how far people will absolve themselves when they feel it doesn’t directly impact them. Wake up and see the big picture.
 
Sawell said:
Would you leave your dog to suffer if he protected you from an attack and in doing so was left wounded? After all, he was just doing what he felt was right. Or is it simply the dog’s fault for getting involved and as such he should be left in pain?
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Are you comparing the mentality and decision making ability of your average serviceman/woman to that of a dog or just trolling out another ridiculous example?
 
Cuchulain said:
Are you comparing the mentality and decision making ability of your average serviceman/woman to that of a dog or just trolling out another ridiculous example?
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If you actually read the context of the example I'm talking about the decision of the individual judging the dog, not the dog.

Please explain how it's ridiculous, as you failed so miserably at even understanding the statement I figure it should be funny to see your next assumption :rolleyes:
 
Not really sure what the anti-war brigade's problem is here. If you don't like the charity, don't donate to it. Problem solved.
 
Sawell said:
If you actually read the context of the example I'm talking about the decision of the individual judging the dog, not the dog.

Please explain how it's ridiculous, as you failed so miserably at even understanding the statement I figure it should be funny to see your next assumption :rolleyes:
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You're inferring that helping out someone in the armed forces is in someway parrallel to helping out a pet who's protected you, they are not in the same ball park, not even the same game. A human being is rational enough to realise that if they go to Iraq/Afghanistan etc to fight, they'll more than likely get shot at, if they get shot at, they might get hit and killed or disabled or whatever, whereas (correct me if I'm wrong, based on some of the posts in this thread I could be) a dog doesn't have quite that degree of logic.
 
RDM said:
Not really sure what the anti-war brigade's problem is here. If you don't like the charity, don't donate to it. Problem solved.
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How about it being available to people and all their extended family even if they've only served one day in the forces? That's a waste of money, give it to those who're deserving, i.e. those that are injured etc and I'd be glad to donate.
 
Cuchulain said:
You're inferring that helping out someone in the armed forces is in someway parrallel to helping out a pet who's protected you, they are not in the same ball park, not even the same game. A human being is rational enough to realise that if they go to Iraq/Afghanistan etc to fight, they'll more than likely get shot at, if they get shot at, they might get hit and killed or disabled or whatever, whereas (correct me if I'm wrong, based on some of the posts in this thread I could be) a dog doesn't have quite that degree of logic.
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Are you suggesting that an dog is incapable of assessing danger?
 
Cuchulain said:
How about it being available to people and all their extended family even if they've only served one day in the forces? That's a waste of money, give it to those who're deserving, i.e. those that are injured etc and I'd be glad to donate.
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So don't donate to the charity?
 
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