They make that in seconds or minutes, if that was true, you wouldn't have any 24hour supermarkets,
Sunday Trading Laws
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They make that in seconds or minutes, if that was true, you wouldn't have any 24hour supermarkets,
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And where I was kids weren't allowed to play outside on a Sunday either. The police used to move us on when we played football.
yeah right, there will be many many people who would. When I worked at Asda I would have loved to of worked more hours at the weekend.
You'd have to think that if USDAW opposed the Sunday Trading laws and pushed for Sunday working to be voluntary that a large portion of individuals concerned don't want to work sundays?
Whenever I've had to it's been because I had to for money, not because I wanted to.
thats any work day for most people.
To the people who think they should be able to shop on a sunday evening and dont work weekends, i pose the following question.
Why do you feel you should get the whole weekend off, but the retail staff shouldnt even get the sunday night off from 5pm?
You could easily do you shopping saturday night, all the way up to midnight while the retal staff are still working or between 10am - 5pm again while the retail staff are working.
Yes, they are being paid to do a job.. yes they could easily swap jobs.. but so could anyone else, eventually leaving you with no one doing that job.
You need retail staff to shop.
If you procrastinate to the point that sunday night is the last possible moment you can shop, that is your fault, not the retail staffs.
Boxing day, you might want to go shoping to get a bargain, you might want to stay at home with your family. The retail staff wont have a choice, if they are needed to work, they will be working. Sure they could refuse.. but new year would be pretty bleak looking for a new job.
Sorry this post has gone on so long.. but..
1) i've been drinking.
2) the people saying get a new job with current climate annoyed me.
and by the way.. i do work in retail, however i dont work sundays and i'm not working boxing day. However i have done previously.
Why do you feel you should get the whole weekend off, but the retail staff shouldnt even get the sunday night off from 5pm?
You could easily do you shopping saturday night, all the way up to midnight while the retal staff are still working or between 10am - 5pm again while the retail staff are working.
Yes, they are being paid to do a job.. yes they could easily swap jobs.. but so could anyone else, eventually leaving you with no one doing that job.
You need retail staff to shop.
If you procrastinate to the point that sunday night is the last possible moment you can shop, that is your fault, not the retail staffs.
Boxing day, you might want to go shoping to get a bargain, you might want to stay at home with your family. The retail staff wont have a choice, if they are needed to work, they will be working. Sure they could refuse.. but new year would be pretty bleak looking for a new job.
Sorry this post has gone on so long.. but..
1) i've been drinking.
2) the people saying get a new job with current climate annoyed me.
and by the way.. i do work in retail, however i dont work sundays and i'm not working boxing day. However i have done previously.
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Lol, no it isn't. It is illegal to be forced to work that many hours, but tick a box and you can work as much as you want.
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Meh, buy your food in advance like most people have done for the last couple of hundred of years?
Enjoy a few hours of no consumerism and remember what is actually important. (i.e not shopping!). Why should everything in the world be there at your convenience anyway?
Enjoy a few hours of no consumerism and remember what is actually important. (i.e not shopping!). Why should everything in the world be there at your convenience anyway?
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Arent the sunday trading laws actually there to protect the smaller sole traders from being squeezed even further out of the market by the larger retailers who could open 24/7 if they wanted to? Hence why the law's only valid over a certain square footage.
I dont think it's anything to do with staff or their working hours.
Seems a pretty valid reason to me.
I dont think it's anything to do with staff or their working hours.
Seems a pretty valid reason to me.
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It's at the convenience of anyone who would pay for the privilege. The shops would gladly sell me things on Sunday apart from the government dictates they can't, which is wrong. It’s annoying that you can’t go shopping on a Sunday after 4, it’s the best time to do a shop, It's even more annoying that supermarkets close at 10 on a Saturday.
why is it the best time?
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Because it's the period in the week when I have the most free time.
As a consumer, sunday opening is great, and I would probably find use for more of it.
As an employee, sunday opening is ok, but I wouldn't want to see grow, because some poor sod has to be working to enable it, and they may actually not want to.
What is the solution to this conundrum? I don't know...
As an employee, sunday opening is ok, but I wouldn't want to see grow, because some poor sod has to be working to enable it, and they may actually not want to.
What is the solution to this conundrum? I don't know...
True, but for me Sunday's are at an extra high level of I don't want to work and not the standard that I feel the rest of the week.
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I think there's an argument in quality of life for keeping it, yeah some people would find it convenient and there are times when I realise it's 4pm on a sunday and I won't make it to the supermarket in time but still I like the restriction a bit. Whatever reason it's for, I like there being a time when the world slows down a bit. Fair enough if you disagree but if it came to a vote I'd be in favour of keeping it myself.
Round the clock, unrestricted consumerism is probably not a good thing in my book.
Round the clock, unrestricted consumerism is probably not a good thing in my book.
1. Few employers pay double time on standard sundays these days.
2. if the law was changed to remove the sunday opening restrictions, that would likely change too.
I agree the laws seem a bit antiquated, we live in a 24/7 society now and what with Christianity having less and less of a bearing on how the country is run, we should look at changing this.
In the short term obviously this may be tough for some staff, but in the long term as staff is turned over, new employees will know what they are signing up for.
In the short term obviously this may be tough for some staff, but in the long term as staff is turned over, new employees will know what they are signing up for.
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If it was anything to do with the church or christianity, there would be no sunday trading at all. And it's nothing to do with working hours because you're entitled to opt out of working sundays by law (Employment Rights Act).
That was a special exemption for shop workers, if the rest of the sunday trading aspect becomes business as usual, I can't see them keeping the exemption, especially as sunday working is becoming much more common in many other lines of employment.
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