rage against the x-factor - Outcome: RATM is the Christmas Number One!

shifty_uk · 14 Dec 2009 at 11:26

Pansy sobby little thicko gay boys, more like.

Don't get me started on that brutally retarded horse face.

Nice to see them relying on others for success.

starfighter · 14 Dec 2009 at 11:28

I can see the hypocracy, yes we are telling people to buy like cowell.

But this is really simply fighting fire with fire.

Do you honestly think cowell likes the music he is peddling or is he essentially taking advantage of the musically disadvantaged people in the UK to make money, we simply like the song and get no money for this, if anything it costs us.

RATM are a good band and this is good music. Obviously music is a personal thing but ask any critic and it is superior.

We are trying the make the UK appreciate good music as oppsed to rubbish, perhaps because rubbish is all they here. I blame individuals for their poor taste in msuic mainly but if they have never been given the chance to listen to something better can you blame them?

Some people only hear music that is on TV or the Radio. Makes the mind boggle.

Nick1881 · 14 Dec 2009 at 11:38

Does anyone know if RATM are getting any radio time yet?

They should do really.

Jono8 · 14 Dec 2009 at 11:40

starfighter said:
I can see the hypocracy, yes we are telling people to buy like cowell.

But this is really simply fighting fire with fire.

Do you honestly think cowell likes the music he is peddling or is he essentially taking advantage of the musically disadvantaged people in the UK.

RATM are a good band and this is good music. Obviously music is a personal thing but ask any critic and it is superior.

We are trying the make the UK appreciate good music as oppsed to rubbish, perhaps because rubbish is all they here. I blame individuals for their poor taste in msuic mainly but if they have never been given the chance to listen to something better can you blame them?

Some people only hear music that is on TV or the Radio. Makes the mind boggle.

Its all personal taste. There is no musical reason as to whay RATM's music is any better than the stuff performed on xfactor last night.

If you want to listen to music that is actually better 'musically' then you'v got to look outside of common popular culture.

bam0 · 14 Dec 2009 at 11:42

mr_x_plosion said:
Does anyone know if RATM are getting any radio time yet?

They should do really.

I heard the song on 2 or 3 nights in a row on Zane Lowe's show.

Nick1881 · 14 Dec 2009 at 11:46

Jono8 said:
Its all personal taste. There is no musical reason as to whay RATM's music is any better than the stuff performed on xfactor last night.

If you want to listen to music that is actually better 'musically' then you'v got to look outside of common popular culture.

What?

Of course it's better, also much more talent as they wrote it and play all the music too.

What would you rather see live? A gay looking teenager singing a stupid song aimed at 12 year olds, or RATM rocking it out?

bam0 said:
I heard the song on 2 or 3 nights in a row on Zane Lowe's show.

Cool, thanks.

Gaygle · 14 Dec 2009 at 11:49

starfighter said:
I can see the hypocracy, yes we are telling people to buy like cowell.

But this is really simply fighting fire with fire.

Do you honestly think cowell likes the music he is peddling or is he essentially taking advantage of the musically disadvantaged people in the UK to make money, we simply like the song and get no money for this, if anything it costs us.

RATM are a good band and this is good music. Obviously music is a personal thing but ask any critic and it is superior.

We are trying the make the UK appreciate good music as oppsed to rubbish, perhaps because rubbish is all they here. I blame individuals for their poor taste in msuic mainly but if they have never been given the chance to listen to something better can you blame them?

Some people only hear music that is on TV or the Radio. Makes the mind boggle.

RATM are a highly respected, very talented, well established band who have been around for yonks. They have millions of fans and are music legends.

These X-Factor gayers are usually around for 2 years (max.), give a few interviews, do a few "concerts", then gradually they are condemned to programmes like "I'm a Celebrity..." or "Celebrity Big Brother" just so they can get on tv again. Then they are forgotten about and you never hear from them again.

TurnipHead · 14 Dec 2009 at 11:51

Oh, X Factors number 1, oh well. Failed. All you achieved was getting a dreadful song into the charts. 'grats.

Jono8 · 14 Dec 2009 at 11:51

mr_x_plosion said:
What?

Of course it's better, also much more talent as they wrote it and play all the music too.

What would you rather see live? A gay looking teenager singing a stupid song aimed at 12 year olds, or RATM rocking it out?

Cool, thanks.

You may LIKE it more but explain to me musically how it is better? You can't as music is entirely subjective. If you want argue it from a technical viewpoint (Notes,harmony instrumentation e.t.c) then they are both on a par.

Also, I'd rather see neither live to be honest but I'm sure there are plenty of young teenage girls who would rather see the gay looking teenager anyway.

Cuchulain · 14 Dec 2009 at 11:53

If I was Simon Cowell and having a number one generated me more income down the line I'd buy up 1000's of my own produced single to make sure it got there, here's hoping it doesn't happen though and RATM make it.

Gaygle · 14 Dec 2009 at 11:54

rp2000 said:
This song was picked as it is seen as an anti pop culture piece, and people on the internet love to pick something different as a lot of them cling on to the hope they are different to the masses, in some bizarre way.

LOL. Are you honestly trying to suggest that people really DO love X-Factor music, but they are trying to pretend not to, to appear different?!

I would rather have damn near anything at No.1 instead of X-Factor music. The fact that it's RATM is the definition of an "added bonus".

CliffyBiro · 14 Dec 2009 at 11:54

TurnipHead said:
Oh, X Factors number 1, oh well. Failed. All you achieved was getting a dreadful song into the charts. Grats.

You're welcome.

And well done on buying the X-Factor track 6 times.

Gaygle · 14 Dec 2009 at 12:01

Jono8 said:
You may LIKE it more but explain to me musically how it is better? You can't as music is entirely subjective. If you want argue it from a technical viewpoint (Notes,harmony instrumentation e.t.c) then they are both on a par.

Also, I'd rather see neither live to be honest but I'm sure there are plenty of young teenage girls who would rather see the gay looking teenager anyway.

RATM wrote their own songs, had catchy lyrics, learnt to master their instruments, created a whole new style of music, put on amazing concerts and gathered their fans purely through their musical talent.

X-Factors winners gather their (very disloyal and short term) fan base through a tv program.

RATM are undoubtably the far superior musicians.

Clairvoyant · 14 Dec 2009 at 12:05

You know some places are charging 29p to download it.

I heard that to count as a single sale for the charts it had to cost 40p or more. If thats the case there are a lot of sales that wont count.

Jono8 · 14 Dec 2009 at 12:05

Gaygle said:
RATM wrote their own songs, had catchy lyrics, learnt to master their instruments, created a whole new style of music, put on amazing concerts and gathered their fans purely through their musical talent.

X-Factors winners gather their (very disloyal and short term) fan base through a tv program.

RATM are undoubtably the far superior musicians.

Again, subjective. Many would argue that Joe has a better voice than the lead singer of RATM.

Don't get me wrong I think they are both as bad as each other and i would probably prefer to listen to RATM but to say that one is better than the other is purely to do with musical taste.

Clairvoyant · 14 Dec 2009 at 12:09

TurnipHead said:
All you achieved was getting a dreadful song into the charts. 'grats.

Who says its dreadful, loved it the first time I heard it still do.

Where are the real musicians these days, that can write music, play the instruments and sing "LIVE". Just look at all the people that have to mime at gigs.

CliffyBiro · 14 Dec 2009 at 12:10

Clairvoyant said:
Who says its dreadful, loved it the first time I heard it still do. We cant help you like junk music that someone else wrote.

Where are the real musicians these days, that can write music, play the instruments and sing "LIVE". Just look at all the people that have to mime at gigs.

They're out there, but the majority are used to auto-tuned dross.

samir_ansari · 14 Dec 2009 at 12:11

Jono8 said:
Again, subjective. Many would argue that Joe has a better voice than the lead singer of RATM.

Don't get me wrong I think they are both as bad as each other and i would probably prefer to listen to RATM but to say that one is better than the other is purely to do with musical taste.

I dont think this is really a question of musical taste but simply more of a middle finger to the mainstream.

There is a reason why we are pitting RATM against the X factor and not someone like Plan B

teh_captain · 14 Dec 2009 at 12:29

Clairvoyant said:
You know some places are charging 29p to download it.

I heard that to count as a single sale for the charts it had to cost 40p or more. If thats the case there are a lot of sales that wont count.

Amazon and Tesco who are charging 29p are subsidising the rest, so taking an 11p hit on every track bought. It still counts

Raumarik · 14 Dec 2009 at 12:42

Clairvoyant said:
Who says its dreadful, loved it the first time I heard it still do.

I think it's garbage, but I still bought it on the off chance it has a 1 in 100000000 chance of beating the X factor garbage that'll also be in the chart