Homeowner fights off knife-wielding burglars, gets 30 months; burglar spared jail

NightSt@lk3r said:
It's the lack of faith in the british justice system that drives people to dish out there own justice in these situations, if Mr Hussain had tied up the yob untill the Police arrived like someone had suggested the yob would have been given a slap on the wrist mabe a bit of comunity service then would be back on his yobbish way.
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I agree entirely. :)

Angilion said:
You posed what appeared to be reasonable questions in a public forum. If you didn't want anyone to reply, you shouldn't have done that.

You aren't the only person here, so you don't get to decide what is a wasted post. Replying to you alone would be a waste, but replies on a public forum are not read by you alone.



He got 30 months for a particularly brutal attempted murder. That is not "so much time in prison".

It isn't proven that the person he tried to kill was one of the perpetrators.

That person was too brain-damaged to plea, which makes them unfit for trial. The lack of a trial is not about them, it's about how a justice system works.

We don't know if the others did get away.
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Goodness you're a moody thing aren't you? Get out of the wrong side of bed? There there, it'll be ok. Oh and by the way, I'll do what the hell I like on the forums (whilst sticking the rules) thank you very much, but I appreciate your chastisement, I feel I know my place, thank you good sir. I'm glad you felt that replying to me wasn't a waste - makes feel warm and glowy inside. :D

I'm not alone?! I knew those voices in my head were real! I knew t!

Thanks for re-itterating the basic facts of the case again - my reading skills aren't brilliant being foreign and all. I appreciate the help. Could you break them down into single syllable words for me? Ta! xx
 
He chased them down the road with his brother, and even after bringing them down, no that wasn't enough, so he broke his skull with a cricket bat and gave him brain damage.

Bit extreme imo!
 
I believe the answer is here:

What followed was described in Reading Crown Court as self-defence that went too far. Walid Salem, one of the intruders, suffered a permanent brain injury after he was struck with a cricket bat so hard that it broke into three pieces. Neighbours saw several men beating Salem with weapons, including a metal pole.​

Hussain did the right thing right up until the point when he and his mates beat a defenceless man with a variety of weapons, to the point of permanent brain injury.

Incidentally, the burglar who was "spared jail" remains in custody pending other charges. He is not a free man.
 
I haven't read the whole thread because the liberal contingent were annoying me. When a person or persons enter my property with out my consent, they have opted out of the laws of society. Why the hell should society protect them? If burglars ect knew that entering someones house meant the chance that they may get a good kicking, you can bet that the crime rate would drop.

I read somewhere recently that the place with the lowest number of 'live' burglaries in the world is Florida. That is burglaries where the occupants are at home. Why is this? Because the criminals know that the occupants all have guns and are not afraid to use them.
 
Many Asians are extreme when it comes to their family... you **** with them, then you have SERIOUS problems... they are likely going to be more serious about hurting someone than any posey "i'm hard" chavs. Now picture you saw your family trussed up and told you were about to be killed... I can see how this would spark rage, pure rage, with a resulting temporary insanity that involved chasing whoever threatened your family and giving it to them, old-style.

While I see why the law must always stand against violence in this fashion, I fully understand why the man did it, and applaud him for it.
 
Evangelion said:
I believe the answer is here:

What followed was described in Reading Crown Court as self-defence that went too far. Walid Salem, one of the intruders, suffered a permanent brain injury after he was struck with a cricket bat so hard that it broke into three pieces. Neighbours saw several men beating Salem with weapons, including a metal pole.​

Hussain did the right thing right up until the point when he and his mates beat a defenceless man with a variety of weapons, to the point of permanent brain injury.

Incidentally, the burglar who was "spared jail" remains in custody pending other charges. He is not a free man.
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Agreed.

They could have taken his legs out and held him until police arrived (the odd sneaky kidney punch would have gone unnoticed if they'd wanted to let out some frustration) but beating him into a vegetable is hardly the correct way to go about things.
 
I say its a shame Salem lived...

50 past convictions?? the guy is log due a killing...

There has been a lot of negetative press about muslims this is a very positive report, a shame more people dont have Mr Hussain's balls...

Mr Hussain is a fine upstanding citizen, I say hang Salem, 50 convictions where do you draw the line, when people are atarving to death in the world why are we spending millions on scum like this?

To all those who say he did the wrong thing... how will you feel if salem kills your family, with 50 convictions its only a matter of time... maybe he will only rape your wife.. or your children... maybe you will get lucky and he will only trash your house.. kill you pet dog... or empty your bank account with a clone of your card..

I would like to send my condolences to Mr Hussain and his family on this shocking verdict.
 
Evangelion said:
I believe the answer is here:

What followed was described in Reading Crown Court as self-defence that went too far. Walid Salem, one of the intruders, suffered a permanent brain injury after he was struck with a cricket bat so hard that it broke into three pieces. Neighbours saw several men beating Salem with weapons, including a metal pole.​

Hussain did the right thing right up until the point when he and his mates beat a defenceless man with a variety of weapons, to the point of permanent brain injury.
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Maybe he should have thought about that before committing an even more violent act against that guy and his family.

Evangelion said:
Incidentally, the burglar who was "spared jail" remains in custody pending other charges. He is not a free man.
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Presumably he's recovered from his "brain damage" enough to stand trial for these other charges. It's a miracle!
 
should be given a boot to the head!
i would say he went a bit far, but then again if someones threeatening your family you want revenge...with a cricket bat!
but i think one wack is enough...
 
Misleading title! He hardly fought them off, more one of his cronies beat the living **** out of one of them long after he was in any state to continue burglarising.
 
scorza said:
Maybe he should have thought about that before committing an even more violent act against that guy and his family.
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Sorry to be a wishy washy liberal here but how is threatening someone more violent than beating someone to a pulp? It is only if he had carried out his threats that it would be more violent.
 
Richdog said:
Many Asians are extreme when it comes to their family... you **** with them, then you have SERIOUS problems... they are likely going to be more serious about hurting someone than any posey "i'm hard" chavs. Now picture you saw your family trussed up and told you were about to be killed... I can see how this would spark rage, pure rage, with a resulting temporary insanity that involved chasing whoever threatened your family and giving it to them, old-style.

While I see why the law must always stand against violence in this fashion, I fully understand why the man did it, and applaud him for it.
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+1

According to the law, he was wrong but the extreme provocation he suffered and his inevitable resultant mental state should surely have been sufficient mitigation for him to avoid a custodial sentence, at the worst it should have been suspended. And for the burglar not to be jailed just adds insult to injury. 50 previous convictions, persistent career criminals like this should be locked up for life without parole way before being convicted that many times. I presume the burglar will get a huge compensation payout for his injuries as well.
 
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Where was there sack of door knobs ala The Simpsons!!!!!!

You guys cannot be serious, this wasn't self-defence, it was a mob chasing suspected burglars.

Sounds like all parties should be in prison.
 
RDM said:
Sorry to be a wishy washy liberal here but how is threatening someone more violent than beating someone to a pulp? It is only if he had carried out his threats that it would be more violent.
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Violence isn't just about physical attacks, breaking in to someone's house is a violent action, false imprisonment (what Mr Saleem was charged with) is violent, assaulting Mr Husssain, his wife, and his children is violent. Mr Saleem is a man of violence, therefore any violent act committed against him is mitigated by circumstance.
 
Oxy said:
Where was there sack of door knobs ala The Simpsons!!!!!!

You guys cannot be serious, this wasn't self-defence, it was a mob chasing suspected burglars.

Sounds like all parties should be in prison.
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I admit I did not read all the article but unless the family was blind folded there was no 'Suspect' it was the Burglar and I dont think tieing up a family and threatening them is in the description of burglary
 
scorza said:
Violence isn't just about physical attacks, breaking in to someone's house is a violent action, false imprisonment (what Mr Saleem was charged with) is violent, assaulting Mr Husssain, his wife, and his children is violent.
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Agreed, but all of which fall short of beating someone to a pulp. I didn't say he wasn't violent I just disagreed with "more violent".
 
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