Got flashed by a GATSO.

Even if it is a leased truck, it would still have Stobart's as the registered keeper and that's where the ticket would be sent.
 
Dangerous said:
Not really upto 6 months to find the driver of a company car/van/truck etc.

14 days to the lease/owner.
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Just to clarify..

If you drive a car that you own, think you've been flashed and don't receive anything within 14 days, you're pretty much safe?
 
Tomsk said:
Even if it is a leased truck, it would still have Stobart's as the registered keeper and that's where the ticket would be sent.
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Nope the Police will send it to the lease company

Lease company wiill say its leased to XYZ company

and then XYZ will say its ABC driver
 
bledd. said:
Just to clarify..

If you drive a car that you own, think you've been flashed and don't receive anything within 14 days, you're pretty much safe?
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14 days plus postage

What is the 14 day rule?
The 14 day rule relates only to the period of time in which the Police/Process Unit must serve the original Notice. The Police do not have to prove that the Notice reached its intended recipient within 14 days, merely that in the normal course of events, it should have arrived. In many cases, the registered keeper will be a lease company not the actual driver with the result that even if the driver is unaware of the incident, service of the Notice is good if it was sent to arrive at the registered keeper's last known address within 14 days of the offence.

The Notice of Intended Prosecution was issued out of time, what do I do now?
If you are the registered keeper of the vehicle and the ISSUE date on the Notice of Intended Prosecution is more than 14 days after the offence, then you can reject it. This only applies if it is dated more than 14 days after the alleged offence. It does not apply if it is dated within 14 days but received more than 14 days after the offence. If the NIP has been issued too late, then you should return it to the Process Office stating that you reject it because it is time barred. Bear in mind that if you are not the registered keeper, the NIP may have originally been issued within time and sent to the keeper.



http://www.motorlawyers.co.uk/procedure/notice_of_intended_prosecution.htm
 
Dangerous said:
14 days plus postage

What is the 14 day rule?
The 14 day rule relates only to the period of time in which the Police/Process Unit must serve the original Notice. The Police do not have to prove that the Notice reached its intended recipient within 14 days, merely that in the normal course of events, it should have arrived. In many cases, the registered keeper will be a lease company not the actual driver with the result that even if the driver is unaware of the incident, service of the Notice is good if it was sent to arrive at the registered keeper's last known address within 14 days of the offence.

The Notice of Intended Prosecution was issued out of time, what do I do now?
If you are the registered keeper of the vehicle and the ISSUE date on the Notice of Intended Prosecution is more than 14 days after the offence, then you can reject it. This only applies if it is dated more than 14 days after the alleged offence. It does not apply if it is dated within 14 days but received more than 14 days after the offence. If the NIP has been issued too late, then you should return it to the Process Office stating that you reject it because it is time barred. Bear in mind that if you are not the registered keeper, the NIP may have originally been issued within time and sent to the keeper.



http://www.motorlawyers.co.uk/procedure/notice_of_intended_prosecution.htm
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Have I missed something which counteracts this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/8332523.stm
http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Admin/2009/2924.html
 
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miniyazz said:
If there had to be proof of receipt, no-one who ever contested their ticket from now on would have to pay the fine if they just held onto it for a few days/'lost' it, because no police force uses recorded delivery. If you're referring to the recent ruling, it was that the NOIP had to be sent out with reasonable expectation that it would be delivered within the 14 day period - the only reason the guy got off was because the postal strikes delayed the letter AND the police force knew about the postal strikes before, so should have made provision. In other words, there was not reasonable expectation that the letter would arrive in time.
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There doesn't currently have to be proof of receipt no, but I thought it was implicit in what was said by the judge that it should be considered as an option, or that some form of guaranteed delivery time should be used.
 
SlyReaper said:
So what happens if Royal Mail screw up and the NIP genuinely doesn't ever reach you?
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They should send it by recorded delivery, as far as I can tell it's up to them to make sure it arrives with you. If RM start burning or eating recorded letters then it's not your fault and they should start using a better mail service.
 
Peerzy said:
They should send it by recorded delivery, as far as I can tell it's up to them to make sure it arrives with you. If RM start burning or eating recorded letters then it's not your fault and they should start using a better mail service.
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Everyone keeps dismissing this by saying "Can't afford it". So put £1.50 on the fine....
 
Dangerous said:
Nope the Police will send it to the lease company

Lease company wiill say its leased to XYZ company

and then XYZ will say its ABC driver
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Police will send it to the registered keeper since that's the address they get to the DVLA. The RK then has 28 days to reply and the police have 28 days to get the letter out to the nominated driver/hirer, so in R420's situation here's a worst case scenario:

NIP goes to lease company - 14 days
Lease company reply - 42 days
Police send reply to Stobart - 70 days
Stobart reply - 98 days
Police send NIP to R420 - 126 days

So about 4 months.

BigglesPiP said:
Everyone keeps dismissing this by saying "Can't afford it". So put £1.50 on the fine....
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Doesn't work like that. The police don't keep the money from the fines any more, that goes to central government.
 
Lum said:
R420's situation here's a worst case scenario:

NIP goes to lease company - 14 days
Lease company reply - 42 days
Police send reply to Stobart - 70 days
Stobart reply - 98 days
Police send NIP to R420 - 126 days

So about 4 months.
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Knowing my luck, I now know what to expect around the end of February!

Cheers. :(
 
Its a daft system of doing it given that you could rack up hundreds of points within a 4-6 month period.

I drove off when I was being issued with a council parking ticket, it took them ages to get in touch with me.
 
Ive dived to the end coz |I'm tired.

But

when did it flash. if your in a car it flashes pretty much as soon as you go past the camera. in order to get your reg number. If it did the same to a HGV then surely it would only get the side of your trailer
 
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