I think they're about 10". They don't look especially big or anything.
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GTX 380 & GTX 360 Pictured + Specs
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I think they're about 10". They don't look especially big or anything.
Well said!
I read awhile ago in maximumpc magazine that Intel was beginning to think about starting to build video cards.
My vision of the future:
ATI vs Intel
NVIDIA: History!
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Intel have been working on video cards for awhile, they recently announced giving up for this generation
at least, that's what I think I've heard
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I bet your wishing you could afford something better than 2 4850's.
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Intel have been working on video cards for awhile, they recently announced giving up for this generation
Yes and yes to the above basically, Nvidia are being priced out of the high end market, Nvidia may have the fastest card(probably will) and maybe pay for the best gaming support, but at £300 + its sub 5% of all cards sold in the world, well likely closer to 1% to be honest.
As of intergrated low/lower mid cards being intergrated onto the cpu Nvidia will be pushed out of the chipset, intergrated and low end market almost completely. Though Intel's first intergrated cpu/gpu will be nothing better than their current intergrated which is actually crap so theres some room for manouvre there for discrete low end gpu's. But when Intel's only selling intergrated cpu/gpu's in a couple years dell and the likes won't buy a cpu with a gpu and then add another slightly faster discrete gpu for no reason.
Lets say Nvidia sell 100mil cards a year, it will likely be broken down as 50-60million low end cards, 30-35million mid range cards, and 10million high end cards(with most of them being a 260gtx type rather than a 285gtx, so next to no profits). The 50-60million is going out the window within 2 years, theres nothing Nvidia can do about that, its gone. Thats huge, not only because TSMC and the likes will give Nvidia less prices and they'll be a less prefered customer when they are producing half the volume. With less sales, R&D vs cards sold because more expensive per card, increasing the price needed to sell at. It's going to be very very tough for Nvidia to compete in the next couple years, beyond that when Intel and AMD probably have the option to have low or mid range gpu's intergrated on the cpu, thats Nvidia done.
Within 18 months AMD will be producing their own cards cheaper and quite possibly significantly ahead of Nvidia due to TSMC being so useless ,AMD could be a full generation ahead on process at all times again completely killing Nvidia on process, tech, price per card, etc, etc. Nvidia might eat their words though and move to GloFo aswell.
IN comparison if Nvidia are selling 100mil gpu's a year, they are selling 3million GPGPU's, in an expanding, but not expanding fast enough market. IF they get pegged back in 3 years to producing basically only gpgpu's, they won't be able to spend in R&D what they spend now, so again being competitive will be very difficult. Even more so as CPU's get massive FPU power the massive difference between a current cpu/gpu in terms of FPU power will close, massively. GPU power is roughly doubling every generation, its hugely ahead of a normal CPU right now. But the second CPU's get gpu's on die you're talking about having well probably 1/3rd the fpu power of a 5870 on die, when it used to be 1/500th. CPU's are catching up, immensely, GPGPU in terms of discrete cards could be a dead market in 3 years.
At this stage, those wanting good prices and future competition should be praying the next Larabee is closer to the mark.
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Holy crap man, I just play games! What is R&D? I never even heard of a GPGPU. FPU?
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drunkenmaster, i think nvidia could still surive if they played the game right, they really need to court Apple, real hard.
Apple won't settle for just onboard okish FPU performance on a crappy intel gma plugged next to their cpu die.
They are gonna want to have bells and whistles attached, nVidia could provide that, Apple users are already willing to pay more for the name. Apple's marketshare is increasing a lot lately.
Apple won't settle for just onboard okish FPU performance on a crappy intel gma plugged next to their cpu die.
They are gonna want to have bells and whistles attached, nVidia could provide that, Apple users are already willing to pay more for the name. Apple's marketshare is increasing a lot lately.
Apple is IMO the scum of the PC world. People say that using microsoft software is like turning to the dark side, but in reality, apple is the evil company. they charge twice as much for a PC that can not do half the things a microsoft-based PC can do. And I still need someone to please help me with the terminology.
Apple desktops are far from worth what they cost. the laptops on the other hand, are great machines, and OSX is a perfect OS run on one. The laptops aren't actually that expensive when you compare them with a "PC" spec for spec, they just start at a higher spec
OK, never mind
FPU http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floating-point_unit
GPGPU http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPGPU
R&D = Research & Development
Thanks Google, lol
FPU http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floating-point_unit
GPGPU http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPGPU
R&D = Research & Development
Thanks Google, lol
Should get interesting when Nvidia finally get their cards out.
Early results from the new 9.12 drivers show a 10% increase for the 5870 cards so puts them equal to a gtx295 now.
By the time the gtx360 comes out it might not be faster than a 5870 anymore.............
Early results from the new 9.12 drivers show a 10% increase for the 5870 cards so puts them equal to a gtx295 now.
By the time the gtx360 comes out it might not be faster than a 5870 anymore.............
Wow, amazing! And just think about how much money you will save on your electricity bill through less power consumption with the 5870 over the 295 GTX!
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it still all comes down to size, if the new NV stuff is smaller, lots will buy, because they wont have to buy a new case to fit the GPU in. Meaning NV can Afford to be about £100 more expensive, and still be competitive. however like I say this will come down to Size of the GPU.
People should buy ATX spec compliant cases perhaps, seeing as the cards are within the ATX spec
this is very much true,1920 res or lower you only need 1 295 as any more at this res is a waste,however going up higher than 1920 then a second 295 will be beneficial,however 3d vantage scores go through the roof obviously
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