Poll: Do you support the BA Cabin Crew 12 day strike at Christmas?

Do you support the BA Cabin Crew 12 day strike?

  • Yes

    Votes: 94 12.5%

  • No

    Votes: 656 87.5%
  • Total voters
    750
  • Poll closed .
Voted no as well, I can't see the logic in striking during these times....

Company losing money, makes changes to save money and prevent company going into Administration and so Employees can keep their jobs.

Employees don't like this and strike....

Company loses even more money through this period and confidence is severely dented, affects future business.

Company fails to make financial targets...loses more money.

Company called into administration

Employees lose their jobs and puts other companies who rely on business with BA at potential risk...
 
dannyjo22 said:
What? Part time job? What makes it a part time job because she works a X on X off shift. They still do the required amount of hours just differently to someone doing a 9-5 mon-fri.

I work for 5 months per year by your reckoning I have a part time job.

And don't believe all the paper balls, Easyjet cabin crew are on more than £17k.
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No she is genuinely part time, she took an option a few years ago due to her children so she certainly does not do the equivilant of a 8 to 5 full time person. If she was full time she would get £56k per annum.

Full time BA cabin get paid as follows:

Average earnings for cabin services directors are £56,000 on long-haul and £52,000 on short-haul. For junior crew, they are £35,000 and £26,000 respectively
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I must admit the Easyjet wage was just made up as I have no idea except it is renowned for being at the bottom end of the market but they won't publish their rates of pay. However Ryanair pays only £16k basic for junior cabin staff and £25k basic for senior cabin crew plus commision for selling stuff.

She is a senior member of staff on long haul btw.

So on the basis the BA staff get paid 62% more than Ryanair cabin crew I stick with my original statement that there are worst places to work than BA and they shouldn't be striking.
 
Somebody is telling porky pies. On C4 news, a Unite guy said they would stop the stike if BA merely suspended what BA are trying to implement (fewer cabin staff) even if it meant it could happen further down the line - claiming BA would not agree to this at all. BA responded that Unite had already agreed after pay cuts and redundancies (for other staff) that this physically could not happen
 
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LabR@t said:
wow i can't believe that poll

makes me sad :(

Support your fellow workers, solidarity is all we have for heavens sake.
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When they have reasonable requests that are being denied, I'll support them.

When they are using blackmail to get unreasonable demands accepted, I will not.

Simples, no?
 
LabR@t said:
wow i can't believe that poll

makes me sad :(

Support your fellow workers, solidarity is all we have for heavens sake.
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Fellow workers? The BA staff appear to earn more than their peers and appear to have better overall packages too.

Why should we back nothing but greed?
 
i was gonna say yes when i thought about the cost of lip gloss, st tropez, sun cream, after sun, nail varnish, sunglasses, teeth whitening etc etc but then i thought hey the girls get paid loads too!! :p

I voted an all mighty NO.

In my work the union do the exact same tactic plan a strike for the time to cause the utmost disruption, by threatening to irritate the public they expect that the company will deal with the fallout or fold under the pressure of the public/media.

The same thing happened in my work where we were getting significantly higher wages than people on similar roles in different departments. Management wanted to reduce our wages etc again a huge majority of people voted YES to strike.

End result no work for 2 days and no resolution to a still ongoing problem, and you guessed it more action planned in the future, meh!
 
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I think strike action requires a very careful balance so that the public form the opinion that your employer is in the wrong.

When the public at large are thinking 'what a greedy bunch of *****' then you immediately knock some of the wind out of your own sails.
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8414631.stm said:
I've been through some hardship as I recently lost my father and my mother is ill. The job is stressful and you have to leave your worries at home and be constantly nice to passengers.
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Part of the job.

I have been working for BA for 20 years, and I have never known morale to be so low. We are all demoralised and we feel undervalued, while the fat cats get their bonuses and share options.
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Our skills kick in particularly in an emergency situation, for example resuscitations or delivering babies.
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Yeh because there is a birth on every single flight.

They come up with such shabby excuses. Everyone suffers bad times of their lives.


Some good comments from other ba workers though:

"JANE", BA FLIGHT OPERATIONS
I am ashamed by the selfish actions of my narrow-minded, colleagues.


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I've worked for the airline for 15 years and I have found that cabin crew tend not to trust what management tells them. I think they have been brain-washed by the union representatives.
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jp_bl_68 said:
**** no! Sack them and give the jobs to someone that'll appreciate the work.
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Ditto...

my brother works/worked for Globespanair and has just found out the company is going under (sky news !), there are about 600 staff there that will gladly work for the same wage at BA. Get a grip... at least you have a job.

todays business should be able to over rule strikes, they are so 70's/80's and help no-one, I was going to go to Austria after xmas this year and the only flights I could get was BA, I didnt book for 2 reasons

1 - they were stupidly expensive
2 - I had a suspician they were going to strike...
 
i don't know the full details of why they are striking so I can't give a comment really but I heard on the news that one of the reasons is they are complaining about pay.

So my opinion on that is, they should be grateful they actually have a job right now. There are so many people trying to find one but can't.
 
The wages that these "flying waitresses" are complaining about are well above the national average for a start. Now, lets get this out of the way, they do not require any higher qualifications nor do they involve any undue risk. In summary they are very well paid for the role.

Now it's also clear that many other areas of BA have been willing to negotiate on pay, and the cabin crew have not. So basically these idiots deserve no leg to stand on.

If this where about highly skilled people (with degree, masters or PhD's) striking over a pay cut at 30k then I could understand - equally as I would if they where earning 18k a year and facing a pay cut / freeze.

Quite frankly these retards should willingly accept a pay cut, because I tell you what, after the damage they cause over Christmas there is little chance anyone I know will fly with them again.

Personally I wish all those in BA who have compromised the best, I wish nothing but misery on those "flying waitresses" who are going to ruin hundreds of thousands of peoples Christmases.:mad:
 
As others have suggested, I'd heard that they asked the members if they should strike but mentioned no terms, lengths, dates, nothing, just a should we organise one in the future and have a vote over if our plan is ok. Then the second the vote came in as a yes they just announced a ridiculously long and intense strike without ever asking the members if they wanted to go on a strike like it.

In which case it's poor management, should be illegal and frankly as with everyone else I see no reason for them to strike. Lived it up for too long with silly wages, what do you want a very decent and still better than every other company wage with a working company, or a fantastic wage for 6 months till everyones out of a job. Absolute morons the majority of them.
 
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