That is very true, but if you were the type to listen purely to lossless, then you probably wouldn't buy an 8GB MP3 player, but a 160GB one, so ~5000.
I'm not saying that it would be a useless feature, but it's hardly a reason to not buy an iPod.
What am i "missing" about ipods?
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That is very true, but if you were the type to listen purely to lossless, then you probably wouldn't buy an 8GB MP3 player, but a 160GB one, so ~5000.
I'm not saying that it would be a useless feature, but it's hardly a reason to not buy an iPod.
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And generally the best thing to do is just to put your favourite songs into FLAC, but have the rest as MP3.
Because I've USED plenty of ipods and I can read a specification sheet. I should have also mentioned when I said MP3 players I meant PMPs too.
I can look at a spec sheet and see that this Archos plays just about everything and the ipod plays just about nothing, I can have a go of friend's ipods and try out mp3 players in stores...
My music collection is organised automatically by WMP. I insert an audio CD, WMP opens and I copy transcode the songs over with WMP automatically getting the song information and sticking the songs in the right artist and album folders as well as doing the same on the playlist. I can then sync the music to my mp3 player if I want or go into the folder structure and drag and drop (99% of the time) My Documents>My Music>Album (drag and drop into player)... WMP also has the added benefit of playing almost any media that can be thrown at it and not recoding your entire music collection if you have the "wrong" format. It also doesn't matter if you delete songs from the file structure or in the player itself as it will automatically be synced. Above all it coes with your PC (no having to install additional software), isn't as slow as iTunes and has been doing this since before iTunes was even concieved...
I have about 30+GB of music and two 8GB devices (phone and Walkman) that I copy to so a program like iTunes would be (and is) a nightmare in this situation.
Also those talking about the iPhone, I have a friend who carries round another mp3 player with him due to poor battery life on the iPhone, he doesn't actually listen to music on it as it only just survives a day without doing it.
Just seen this so i'll have a go as well (although I have actually listed them before)
Sony S series Walkman > Nano
Sony X series Walkman > Touch (just read a few reviews)
I have no need to look for alternatives for the classic so don't know any for that.
Thats only with my reasonable knowledge of mp3 players, I know Cowan are usually very good as well.
Also those talking about the iPhone, I have a friend who carries round another mp3 player with him due to poor battery life on the iPhone, he doesn't actually listen to music on it as it only just survives a day without doing it.
Snap, mate of mine brings his car around to be fiddled with and when he makes calls he gets in the car and plugs in the charger!
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Speaking of Cowon, looks like they're bringing out another PMP which looks even better than the S9.
http://www.anythingbutipod.com/archives/2009/12/cowon-officially-announces-v5-hd.php
4.8" 800x480 screen, full H.264 support, HDMI out and 45 hour battery life. Looks promising.
http://www.anythingbutipod.com/archives/2009/12/cowon-officially-announces-v5-hd.php
4.8" 800x480 screen, full H.264 support, HDMI out and 45 hour battery life. Looks promising.
You transcode. I hope thats lossless formats or your wrecking your files.
Personally I think WMP is a dog. I dunno how people use it.
Proprietary formats never made any sense. If you use lossless, as least you won't lose any SQ if you have to transcode.
I don't use iTunes, I prefer MediaMonkey. But you can use iTunes with multiple devices and much larger libraries than that. So I don't see the problem.
A decent dedicated MP3 player is always going to sound better and last longer than a phone. If you can't hear the difference, thats a different problem entirely.
You can play lossless on an iPod. Apple Lossless.
On a portable device you are unlikely to be in an enviroment where you can hear the difference between a good MP3 and a Lossless file. So its just consuming space, and battery power for no good reason. If you can hear the difference, in a portable situation, thats pretty rare.
As a music player, definately.
However you probably won't buy a player like that just for music and with all of the apps, internet browser (it's nicer than the Sony one), video (larger screen) I don't think it beats the Touch as a PMP.
Because you believe it, doesn't make any of that true.
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learning Itunes. 'sync' and 'apple' to use an ipod is insanely more difficult than simply Drag Drop MP3 from one folder to mp3 player acting as a USB storage device...fact.
ipods suck, they are overpriced fashion accessories designed to not integrate with the most popular software in the market, windows.
The funny thing about this looking at the history of how apple took the Market from really the 3g iPod onwards. They didn't do much, the rest of them sit back and laughed at apple when they first ever introduced the idea of a mp3 player. Sony did nothing but giggle and waved it mini discs about the place, then when they got the note that eveyone was going to get an iPod, Sony managed to publically ruin themselves with their software connect then the dire mess that was Sonicstage, so much so I can't spend my money with sony and sold my player (hardware wise I loved it).
People can moan all they like about sound quality, bottom line is Apple
not only made it work, they got it right first with hardware and software from the 3g on. Apple didn't push much, the fact it all the other big names pointed and laughed, apple have every right to have about 90% of the Market; none of the other
big names as far as Incan see have even tried to advertise in the same Market in any meaningful way.
People can moan all they like about sound quality, bottom line is Apple
not only made it work, they got it right first with hardware and software from the 3g on. Apple didn't push much, the fact it all the other big names pointed and laughed, apple have every right to have about 90% of the Market; none of the other
big names as far as Incan see have even tried to advertise in the same Market in any meaningful way.
It does integrate with Windows though, you can download iTunes for Windows for free.
I agree that iTunes on Windows isn't as good as on OSX but then Apple want you to buy other Apple products, so it's not surprising they haven't put as much effort into the Windows version as the OSX version. It's just good business.
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