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The services the BBC provide are worth far more than the licence fee to me. I'd agree some employees represent poor value for money, but that's the industry and not the fault of the BBC.

The programming they provide has to appeal to the varied tastes of everyone that pays the licence fee. Whilst there is a lot of stuff on that I'd never consider watching, I just visited the iPlayer homepage and 7 of the 10 programs displayed there are ones I either have or will watched - that's about 5 hours of quality TV in just a few days of scheduling. Over the course of a whole year, I'd say that represents pretty good value for money. :)
 
Scuzi said:
It wouldn't matter if the BBC showed blockbuster movies before their release and sent someone round to give you a blow job each morning. Regardless of how good or bad value you may think it is, the fact remains that paying for their service whether you use them or not, is compulsory if you own a TV receiver. There is no choice. You pay the fee or you are taken to court and prosecuted like a criminal.

The TV licence is an undemocratic tax. It infringes on our liberty to choose. I find it ****ing insulting that we are not allowed to choose.
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So is every tax?
 
Scuzi said:
It wouldn't matter if the BBC showed blockbuster movies before their release and sent someone round to give you a blow job each morning. Regardless of how good or bad value you may think it is, the fact remains that paying for their service whether you use them or not, is compulsory if you own a TV receiver. There is no choice. You pay the fee or you are taken to court and prosecuted like a criminal.

The TV licence is an undemocratic tax. It infringes on our liberty to choose. I find it ****ing insulting that we are not allowed to choose.
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If you can prove you're not watching TV, you don't need to pay it. So your argument is a little flawed. We have a TV in our office for showing KPI stats etc, and we don't pay a fee.

If, however, you want to watch TV - yes, you'll have to pay a TV licence. You could always live in Uganda, they probably don't have TV licences there :)
 
Typical Tory stuff tho, their public spending
plans have a lot to be desired and seeing as Cameron is from a pr background he's gonna work the middle ground as much as possible to get some
more points.
Fact remains is he hasn't got any policies outlined on anything and won't
when/ if he comes to power.
As OBama said after meeting him ," what a light weight".
 
Surely this is a bloody good reason not to vote Conservative. Dismantling the BBC? What an absolute joke.
 
Rich_L said:
So is every tax?
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No. We get to vote for politicians who represent certain taxation policies and as such have a choice.

We do not have a choice when it comes to paying for the BBC's services. If you own a television receiver, you MUST subscribe to their service. If you choose not to, you are prosecuted. It amounts to extortion.

To clarify for the pedants above. Yes, if you can jump through the hoops to prove you do not watch television you can avoid the fee. What if you want to watch television other than the BBC though?
 
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Murf said:
For £12 a month or whatever the cost is the BBC provide an absolutely fantastic service. It's the only public service I can think of where I feel we get value for money. Not only that but they've been providing an excellent service with things like the iPlayer for years and are streets ahead of their competitors with regards to this.

I love their website and use it daily. They've got the best comedies on TV. Their documentaries are superb. There is a massive range of sport for all tastes and they provide very good local programming too.

I honestly don't understand how anyone can attack the BBC unless they've got a vested interest in taking it down. ie - Newspapers, commercial broadcasters etc. The likes of that scumbag Murdoch etc.
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It's not even £12 a month exactly, it's £12 a month per household. I like the BBC, it's caters for almost every taste and is incredibly diverse with its programmes both on radio and tv. As a bonus, the bbc website (particularly the news) is also excellent.

Scuzi said:
If you own a television set, you MUST subscribe to their service. If you choose not to, you are prosecuted. It amounts to extortion.
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This isn't actually the case, you don't have to pay if your not viewing broadcasted material.
 
Scuzi; said:
It wouldn't matter if the BBC showed blockbuster movies before their release and sent someone round to give you a blow job each morning. Regardless of how good or bad value you may think it is, the fact remains that paying for their service whether you use them or not, is compulsory if you own a TV receiver. There is no choice. You pay the fee or you are taken to court and prosecuted like a criminal.

The TV licence is an undemocratic tax. It infringes on our liberty to choose. I find it ****ing insulting that we are not allowed to choose.
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Go and buy a pdp screen with no rf input if you feel that hard done by.
 
cu3ed said:
Go and buy a pdp screen with no rf input if you feel that hard done by.
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You don't need to.. You only have to pay TV license if you watch or record live broadcast. What equipment you own makes no difference at all. You could own a thousand TVS you still wouldn't have to pay.
 
Scuzi said:
It wouldn't matter if the BBC showed blockbuster movies before their release and sent someone round to give you a blow job each morning. Regardless of how good or bad value you may think it is, the fact remains that paying for their service whether you use them or not, is compulsory if you own a TV receiver. There is no choice. You pay the fee or you are taken to court and prosecuted like a criminal.

The TV licence is an undemocratic tax. It infringes on our liberty to choose. I find it ****ing insulting that we are not allowed to choose.
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yeah but how many people would claim they do not watch it if they did make it voluntary. guess you'd be first. :rolleyes:
I pay for not having a crap load of adverts, for bbc.co.uk, for iplayer, for several channels and radio stations. the list goes on. Most other countries are envious of the BBC but hey lets get rid of it because its cool to want to.
 
Scuzi said:
To clarify for the pedants above. Yes, if you can jump through the hoops to prove you do not watch television you can avoid the fee. What if you want to watch television other than the BBC though?
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Jump through hoops?

"Hi I'm just calling to let you know I have a TV but don't use it to view british broadcasting"

Tough stuff...
 
Scuzi said:
No. We get to vote for politicians who represent certain taxation policies and as such have a choice.

We do not have a choice when it comes to paying for the BBC's services. If you own a television receiver, you MUST subscribe to their service. If you choose not to, you are prosecuted. It amounts to extortion.

To clarify for the pedants above. Yes, if you can jump through the hoops to prove you do not watch television you can avoid the fee. What if you want to watch television other than the BBC though?
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A party could run on removing the licence fee, and you could vote for them.

Just like any tax.

To clarify, the TV licence is payable pursuant to The Communications Act 2003, Part 4 of which sets out the requirement and penalties for not having a TV licence - any party could, if they chose, revoke or amend this law and you could vote for them if you so wished.
 
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Scuzi said:
See my edit. I guess none of you value liberty as much as I do.
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Parts of channel 4 and the infrastructure are partly paid by TV license.

You do not have to jump through hoops either. You just ignore and bin the letters. or do what they ask, write to them (has to be written) stating why you don;'t need a tv license and they may send someone round. After this they should not bother you for a few years. For most people this works., however fir a few the letters keep coming.
 
The BBC has brought a lot of innocent people a lot of pleasure, we can't all afford sky boxes.

Pensioners for example, my nan and grandad, we don't get freeview round here and they couldn't afford to pay a sky subscription much like a lot of pensioners, bbc 1 + bbc 2 are the main channels they watch so what are they do do.
And how about radio 1 eh? how many people listen to that. And radio 2, bit of steve wrights sunday love songs!

Seems like the tories just wanna take away something completely insignificant to save a tiny amount of money, causing many people disruption in the process, why not just paint the UK grey and take away all entertainment.

Can I also remind you who makes top gear? How is that liberal or nannying, stop reading the daily mail op.
 
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