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The BBC is state propaganda plain and simple and heavily biased towards the left wing nany state.
I wouldn't say it is heavily biased at all. They have a relatively reserved approach to reporting that, I will give you, does emphasise key values that you could call "British", and looks unfavourably on flagrant immorality.

However, tune in to Fox news for a second. If you can stomach it, THAT is bias.
 
I'm preparred to pay £142 a year just for "Have I Got News For You".

And no, I won't be voting red.
 
I would have second thoughts really if this is what the Tories intend to do.

They need to stop coming up with crazy ideas like this and just do what Conservatives should be doing best... conserving!
 
For me the BBC is a waste of £142 a year.

The only TV programs I watch are Top Gear and MOTD.
I think iPlayer is crap.
I don't want to listen to radio stations dedicated to Black music, Asian music or music made by one armed midgets.
I rarely use the website, and only ever do through clicking links posted by others.

I can afford it, but the money could be better spent on an ESPN subscription.
 
For £12 a month per HOUSEHOLD, the BBC is fantastic. I suggest those of you who can't afford £12 a month per HOUSEHOLD should maybe consider an alternative career path.

oh i do apologise mr middle class.

the license is a rip off if you dont use their website or watch hardly any tv

however, if you sit on your fat arse all day watching crap television then you probably think it is value for money

maybe you should consider another lifestyle path and do something useful with your spare time
 
I actually like the BBC - Have I got News for You and Top Gear being my favourites. I'm just not particularly keen on the license fee. It doesn't bother me in any case since I grab everything from iPlayer.

Also, bear in mine that some newspapers, especially The Sun, are owned by that Murdoch tard. He has a vested interest in ensuring the BBC dies so his crap takes a dominant media market share. Is a UK equivalent of Fox News what you really want?
 
The BBC is state propaganda plain and simple and heavily biased towards the left wing nany state.

:D:D:D

And yet it regularly gets complaints about being against the "state" :D



Re the Licence fee Freeze, the BBC has already I think been looking at that possibility and planning for it, but the Tories do seem to be getting worryingly close to Murdoch's posterior recently with various of their announced policies.
However it's also worth remembering that the Tories "plans" for the BBC in the past haven't worked out that well, I remember their plan to force it to concentrate more on "PSB" and drop a lot the "expensive" entertainment, which they eventually worked out would save the public £6 a year for a huge loss in content (much of the BBC's "entertainment" content largely pays for itself over time, and I think over it's life works out cheaper than the pure PSB which has little commercial resale value).


Whilst I don't agree completely with the licence fee, I do see the reasoning behind it - it's the only way we can have a broadcaster who is big enough to be effective, whilst at the same time not swayed by "commercial" pressures.
I look at ITV's line up, then C4's line up and finally the line up on 5 and the Sky channels and almost despair at times.
I miss the days when ITV actually had a range of content, had a functioning PSB element (they even stopped commisioning new Childrens content for 2 years if memory serves), and had regional differences/programming that wasn't just a logo at the end of the show.
Likewise C4 before they realised that BB and the like were very cheap ways to get a lot of viewers the advertisers want.
The pity of it is, that the commercial broadcasters in their eagerness to get a short term increase in profits/viewers have forgotten something very important about TV/Film/Music - a good programme might cost a lot, and may not pay for itself on first viewing, but will keep bringing in money for years (decades), the likes of X-factor/BB/I'm a Zelebrety get me on TV! are effectively one shots with little or no repeat/home video appeal.

The BBC gets a lot of complaints about being too right wing, too left wing, supporting Israel, supporting the Palistines, having too much sport, having too little sport etc, but seems to be the most balanced of the UK broadcasters in terms of tone and content much of the time.
It's also historically been the one that has spent money on R&D as it's been able to look ahead (Nicam, Digital recordings, various microphone designs, HD over freeview etc for a few minor examples).
 
From you, that means very little. I think you should learn to evaluate your own news sources before criticising the BBC.

I wouldn't say it is heavily biased at all. They have a relatively reserved approach to reporting that, I will give you, does emphasise key values that you could call "British", and looks unfavourably on flagrant immorality.

However, tune in to Fox news for a second. If you can stomach it, THAT is bias.

The BBC is very heavily biased. The propaganda they churn out regarding climate change is all the proof you need. Look how silent they were regarding climategate emails and when they had to eventualy cover it because it was all over the internet and other news networks they were totaly spinning it in favour of the governments position on climate change. They've been spinning it on newsnight as well and the recent climatewars progam.

And don't even get me started on the swine flu vaccination campaign they were running.
 
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oh i do apologise mr middle class.

the license is a rip off if you dont use their website or watch hardly any tv

however, if you sit on your fat arse all day watching crap television then you probably think it is value for money

maybe you should consider another lifestyle path and do something useful with your spare time

Absolute LOL.

I watch MOTD, Top Gear, Merlin and my wife watches Strictly Come Dancing. Other than that, I listen to Radio 2 sometimes and use the BBC Website at work.

But by your logic (should I throw in an insult here about you being working class, reading the Sun and/or having had 3 kids by the time you were 18?), I sit or my backside all day because I can afford the (minuscule, no matter what "class" you are) fee? When in fact my total TV viewing per week is probably 2-3 hours?
 
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I like the BBC, their TV is informative, entertaining and educational. I don't really know how you can dislike their programming, you might not like JR but what about Gavin and Stacey, or any of the other great shows that have been given a chance due to the BBC.

I don't really get this hate wagon for them, sure they do everything by the book but someone has to set the mark.
My argument has always been if it's so wonderful they shouldn't have a problem generating revenue as a subscription service.

The fact is there are lot of people who wouldn't pay for the BBC as it stands, and they know it. I don't see why a typical xfactor watcher should have to subsides tv programs made for BBC 4 etc.
 
My argument has always been if it's so wonderful they shouldn't have a problem generating revenue as a subscription service.

The fact is there are lot of people who wouldn't pay for the BBC as it stands, and they know it. I don't see why a typical xfactor watcher should have to subsides tv programs made for BBC 4 etc.

The typical xfactor viewer doesn't deserve a television.
 
For the sake of £12 p/m per household I think the BBC is a fantastic service, I don't like everything about it and that the news reporting seems to be less involved and in depth now than it used to be is a bone of contention but overall it's generally done well. It's not unbiased, nothing ever is but it's still a damn sight better than most so I'm not particularly in favour of a freeze on spending if it is going to be for longer than a year and I'd definitely not support the abolition of the licence fee since that would fundamentally alter the BBC.
 
Absolute LOL.

I watch MOTD, Top Gear, Merlin and my wife watches Strictly Come Dancing. Other than that, I listen to Radio 2 sometimes and use the BBC Website at work.

But by your logic (should I throw in an insult here about you being working class, reading the Sun and/or having had 3 kids by the time you were 18?), I sit or my backside all day because I can afford the (minuscule, no matter what "class" you are) fee?

FYI I am non of the above. For £140 a year I watch f1 and maybe mock the week if I have time, great value for money wouldn't you agree? I like to look after my money and spend it wisely

For £140 I could do so many things which would be more entertaining than watching television
 
hardly another reason to vote tory and if it is my god imo a head needs looking at.

Granted the Beeb isn't brilliant, it is quite large and over represented by minorities... but... it is relatively good quality for service.

It isn't what i would say is biased as i've seen Mandy getting a bit flustered and vehement to the presenters saying "this is more right wing flow from the BBC" or words to that effect, so they aren't a "liberal/socialist" corporation at all.

At the end of the day if you are going to vote conservative be prepared for:
- rising unemployment
- rising inflation (as a result)
- longer waiting times in hospitals (as come on, NHS will be shortened)
- Increased interest rates which could slow growth
- Tax breaks for the rich

Thats just my opinion, me and my family vote Labour, you may all vote Conservative/Lib Dem whatever, either way opinions are quite unlikely to shift, especially on an internet forum.

Labour have their many bad points but i wouldn't vote tory just because they are going to save me... oooo £6/7 a year in freezing the price of a TV Licence plus all that comes with it lol you must be joking
 
The BBC is very heavily biased. The propaganda they churn out regarding climate change is all the proof you need. Look how silent they were regarding climategate emails and when they had to eventualy cover it because it was all over the internet and other news networks they were totaly spinning it in favour of the governments position on climate change. They've been spinning it on newsnight as well and the recent climatewars progam.

And don't even get me started on the swine flu vaccination campaign they were running.

Please do explain how Top Gear are allowed to air their views on climate change if they are so biased?
 
For all the people who value the BBC so much, how many of you would be prepared to pay double in order to compensate for all those who wouldn't pay if the service was optional?
 
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