Cant seem to get past 4.2ghz

I have a foxconn board with different terminonology and I have played with settings for awhile but you need to ensure that one of the multi's is twice the ram. So is ram is x6 multi then other needs to be x12. I think it;s the qpi link data rate on your asus but I could be wrong. A quick search here will tell you. If one isn't double the other your board won't boot.
 
capriboy1978 said:
I have a foxconn board with different terminonology and I have played with settings for awhile but you need to ensure that one of the multi's is twice the ram. So is ram is x6 multi then other needs to be x12. I think it;s the qpi link data rate on your asus but I could be wrong. A quick search here will tell you. If one isn't double the other your board won't boot.
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just had a look and

Seems the setting that needs to be double is the uclk frequency which needs to be at least double my dram frequency
and from what i can tell my ram is x8 i cant seem to find anywhere to change that
 
Wow... you can't get past 4.2GHz? What a shame.

Dude, the reason you can only get to 4.2GHz is because most chips can't go past that, of which there's nothing you can do in the BIOS to fix it. If it's not good enough for you then tough - wait for more advanced chips.
 
try this for 4.3+

AI Overclocker Tuner - Manual
OC from CPU level up - auto
oc from memory level up - auto
cpu ratio setting - 21
cpu turbo power limit - enabled

bclk frequency - 200+ [depending on how far you want to go, start with 205]
pcie frequency - 103
dram frequency - set to lowest you can go then work up as the cpu clock is proved stable
uclk frequency - auto
qpi link data rate - auto

dram timing [set loose to 9-9-9-28 2T or something similar until finding best cpu stable clock]

epu II phase control - full phase
Load-Line calibration - enabled
cpu differential amplitude - 1000mv

extreme ov - disabled

cpu voltage control - absolute (VID)
cpu voltage - around 1.4v then work down until you find lowest stable volts
cpu pll voltage - top value in the yellow
qpi/dram core - top value in the yellow should allow you to overclock your ram a bit more
ioh voltage - auto
ioh pcie voltage auto
ich voltage - auto
ich pcie voltage - auto

dram bus voltage - 1.65v - this is very important

cpu spread spectrum - disable
pcie spread spectrum - disable
cpu clock skew - auto
ioh clock skew - auto


PLEASE BEAR IN MIND:
these settings are for higher than average clocks on GOOD watercooling
dont go wading in with these settings if your gear isnt up to scratch
obviously you need to know what you are doing if you follow these settings as a basis

these settings should work for pretty much every 1366 chip

judging by your posts [without wishing to sound rude] it sounds like you dont know how to overclock memory
this is very important
i suggest going and reading up before trying for big 24/7 clocks as you need to learn the little tweaks

anyone can get 4.2 but going beyond that needs finesse and skill
 
So JonJ678 .
are you saying that my ram/cpu is not getting enough voltage ?
and that the auto feature of the bios is not cutting it ?
 
rjkoneill said:
cpu pll voltage - top value in the yellow
qpi/dram core - top value in the yellow should allow you to overclock your ram a bit more
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hey rjkoneill

thanks for this,
These 2 settings when you say top value in the yellow you referring to where it says
Current Voltage : 1.296v(this changes) 1.812V 1.144V(this changes too) ?

or did you mean where if i press the + until it goes to the highest yellow setting before it goes red ?

oh and no offence taken , i am a complete noob to overclocking in general. ( i guess i shoulda mentioned this)
i tried to look for guides but they all seem to be for cpu.
 
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set cpu up first then overclock the ram

i can run 4.55 stable on my 920 but it cant handle a memory divider above 6x so its swings and roundabouts

4.2 is generally the fastest you can go reliably on most chips with memory able to run at any speed up to 2000mhz [depending on what ram you have]

the two values in yellow i refered to, press the + key until you get to the red values and then go down a notch until you are back in the yellow

if you are on water then you can handle these voltages
but it should allow you to get whatever you want out of your memory [within reason]
 
Superewza said:
Wow... you can't get past 4.2GHz? What a shame.

Dude, the reason you can only get to 4.2GHz is because most chips can't go past that, of which there's nothing you can do in the BIOS to fix it. If it's not good enough for you then tough - wait for more advanced chips.
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not a very happy person i take it.

Take a chill pill mate
 
Course i'm happy - i'm on holiday :p

Anyway, the point is that damn near most chips physically can't reach higher speeds and i just think you're asking for too much. The very BEST i7 chips can get 4.5ish, but you really won't be able to notice a difference between that and what you already have.

What does your loop consist of anywho?
 
Superewza said:
Course i'm happy - i'm on holiday :p

Anyway, the point is that damn near most chips physically can't reach higher speeds and i just think you're asking for too much. The very BEST i7 chips can get 4.5ish, but you really won't be able to notice a difference between that and what you already have.

What does your loop consist of anywho?
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ah i see where you are comming from.

Loop is

EK 5970 block
Swiftech Apogee GTZ SE CPU Water Block
TFC Xchanger Triple Radiator 360 3 x fesser 1800rpm triebwerk fans
1/2" tubing
XSPC Laing DDC-Pump 12V Ultra
xspc clear res top


got it running in this order res/Pump --> rad -->cpu-->gpu-->res/pump
 
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@Rich, what kinda temps are you hitting under load @ 4.55GHz?

@ OP, IME I've found that once you start pushing beyond 200Bclk, things start becoming tricky with these processors, my highest stable o/c so far is 4.4GHz but the jump in vCore that's needed to go from 200 Bclk to 210 is huge, I only need 1.275v vCore, and 1.215v Vtt for 200Bclk, but to get 210MHz stable I have to increase vCore to 1.41v (CPUZ shows 1.395v), and Vtt needs to be bumped up to 1.300v..
 
DavyBoy said:
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@Rich, what kinda temps are you hitting under load @ 4.55GHz?

@ OP, IME I've found that once you start pushing beyond 200Bclk, things start becoming tricky with these processors, my highest stable o/c so far is 4.4GHz but the jump in vCore that's needed to go from 200 Bclk to 210 is huge, I only need 1.275v vCore, and 1.215v Vtt for 200Bclk, but to get 210MHz stable I have to increase vCore to 1.41v (CPUZ shows 1.395v), and Vtt needs to be bumped up to 1.300v..
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i got 1.43vcore on the 920
rocking temps of around 78'c on a quad+double radiator in series [see rig in sig]

that was a while ago now and i am running much cooler at the moment with MUCH faster speeds :)

you are dead right that 200+ bclk is a nightmare
my biostar did 222X20 perfectly stable without turbo but my rampage is nowherenear that good

killer_uk has the godlike biostar now though - it was a shame to see it go
 
locoesse said:
ah i see where you are comming from.

Loop is

EK 5970 block
Swiftech Apogee GTZ SE CPU Water Block
TFC Xchanger Triple Radiator 360 3 x fesser 1800rpm triebwerk fans
1/2" tubing
XSPC Laing DDC-Pump 12V Ultra
xspc clear res top


got it running in this order res/Pump --> rad -->cpu-->gpu-->res/pump
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Perhaps I have got it wrong but surely you would be better with the loop going Res/pump--> cpu-->Gpu-->Rad-->res/pump could also switch round the order of cpu/gpu but otherwise it seems on logic that your loop is pumping cold water into rad from the pump whereas I would have thought you would be better pumping the hot water from the cpu into the rad to cool it before returning to the pump. Granted that once it has been running for a while your water is going to be heated by the cpu/gpu anyway.

Maybe I have it wrong - anyone care to put me right on this?
Not trying to hijack your thread btw - just curious. Glad to see many people with good experience and advice have chimed in on the clocking issues.

Cheers

Mark
 
tipes said:
Perhaps I have got it wrong but surely you would be better with the loop going Res/pump--> cpu-->Gpu-->Rad-->res/pump could also switch round the order of cpu/gpu but otherwise it seems on logic that your loop is pumping cold water into rad from the pump whereas I would have thought you would be better pumping the hot water from the cpu into the rad to cool it before returning to the pump. Granted that once it has been running for a while your water is going to be heated by the cpu/gpu anyway.
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I always run Res - Pump - Rad - Cpu - Res

This way the water is warm when entering the res and the heat from the pump is added onto this before being cooled by the rad resulting in the cpu getting the lowest possible water temp ;)
 
why do you need to go to above 4.2? Apart from bragging rights you'll not notice much difference gaming or whatnot. It' just going to wreck your chip faster and cost you money a lot quicker than you probably planned.

I'd be happy at a stable 4.2 ;)
 
With a good chip needing lower volts and with good cooling your not likely to kill your chip any faster than the majority with a lower oc.

I've had a play today and been into win at 21x222, no way was it stable mind but my little H50 couldn't keep up. I've decided on 21x210 as it doesn't need silly volts to be stable and my H50 is holding it's own.
 
subbytna said:
why do you need to go to above 4.2? Apart from bragging rights you'll not notice much difference gaming or whatnot. It' just going to wreck your chip faster and cost you money a lot quicker than you probably planned.

I'd be happy at a stable 4.2 ;)
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Some people enjoy pushing hardware to its limits..

You're right in that he won't see much if any difference in gaming etc, but it will definitely make a difference in benches.
 
tatts said:
I always run Res - Pump - Rad - Cpu - Res

This way the water is warm when entering the res and the heat from the pump is added onto this before being cooled by the rad resulting in the cpu getting the lowest possible water temp ;)
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Cheers for the reply - so I have not got mine set up for best performance. I will re do it so that in my particular instance it would be Res/pump----> rad---->cpu---->res/pump, as you can see I have a combined res and pump. So will my loop likely be better this way?

Mark
 
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