You are not an idiot for having a different opinion, but technology has a very limited advantage in terrain such as Afghanistan. Even so, the soldiers of the armed forces are following the mandate handed to them by our government, which was elected by us. If you disagree with the war, (I do, I disagree with pretty much any war, having been in one) then your opinion should be put to the Government, not acted out against the soldiers whose bravery in a very difficult situation is unquestionable.
Islamic protest march planned for Wootton Basset
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You are not an idiot for having a different opinion, but technology has a very limited advantage in terrain such as Afghanistan. Even so, the soldiers of the armed forces are following the mandate handed to them by our government, which was elected by us. If you disagree with the war, (I do, I disagree with pretty much any war, having been in one) then your opinion should be put to the Government, not acted out against the soldiers whose bravery in a very difficult situation is unquestionable.
Couldn't have said it better myself mate.
I agree. The men and women currently serving out there are very brave and should be commended highly for what they are doing. How people can question the bravery is beyond me. They risk serious injury resulting in making the rest of their life a struggle and/or even death. They may or may not be achieving anything positive but its not the individual soldiers decision whether to go to war or not but they put in 100% into the mission at hand. Sadly many have been killed and injured now in what has turned into a long and extremely dangerous campaign and Id like to see how some of the people would cope day to day who have questioned the bravery of the men and women on the ground.
I think technological superiority pales in significance when you're fighting in a strange country against a force that can hide among civilians and generally uses dirty tricks and guerilla tactics to achieve their goals.
You only have to look at the death toll to realise that being KIA is a significant risk. I still think the men and women fighting over there are very brave.
What a load of drivel... This as well...
http://www.islam4uk.com/current-affairs/world-news/420-akmal-shaikh-a-secpnd-class-citizen
http://www.islam4uk.com/current-affairs/world-news/420-akmal-shaikh-a-secpnd-class-citizen
perhaps if you added some reasoning to qualify your opinion....
as far as I'm concerned Afghanistan is a fair bit different to Iraq - an attack was launched first against on the US and they're perfectly entitled to respond - I don't have a problem with the invasion of Afghanistan or the overthrow of the Taliban regime and tbh.. the forces there at the moment are there with the consent of the elected govt (ok so there might have been problems with the elections but its a far cry better than a taliban govt comprised of more extreme islamo-nutters).
LMAO
I believe that if he'd been caught in Saudi then he'd be facing having his head chopped off in a public stadium for smuggling 4kgs of heroin
is that really preferable to the lethal injection the Chinese gave him
if it was the UK he'd get a few years in jail
now who are the barbaric backwards people here.....
Not that I agree with the death penalty though.So we are to blame for that death as well? Even though it had nothing to do with us and everything was done (bar going to war with China :/) to try and stop him being executed.
Had he been white British it would have gone no different!
As I said before. Idiots.
Everyone, try not to be too outrage by the workings of a few morons. They are trying to create a reaction and generate publicity to further their own agenda.
They can easily be written off as morons who should be ignored and treated as the utter jokes that they are.
If you need evidence of how much of a joke they are, see below:
Courseeee it is....
They can easily be written off as morons who should be ignored and treated as the utter jokes that they are.
If you need evidence of how much of a joke they are, see below:
Deluded Idiots on "Islam4uk" said:
Courseeee it is....
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I disagree slightly with the idea that all soldiers are brave. Plenty of them are just out of career options, so travelling overseas and perhaps shooting people from time to time is as good an option as any. I don't think there's that large a number of people that feel a particular calling to serve their country in the army these days.
yes the CoE spoke out about the BNP the second they tried to use Christianity to gain votes...
It's called being responsible.
Does it matter why they are there? Pretty much anyone who ventures out with the very real threat of being blown to pieces or shot dead is brave, in my eyes.
That's nothing to do with bravery though. Your referring to a diminished "sense of duty" rather than bravery and perhaps your right - i don't think there is as much as there used to be, but that's a totally different discussion.
That doesnt mean they lack courage. Its true that the Army is fully manned for the first time in a decade mainly due to the recession and lack of employment, but going out on patrols and knowingly putting yourself in mortal danger takes courage. Anyone who has been in a combat situation will tell you that the reality is frightening, anyone who tells you differently is either lying or a fool. whatever reasons put you in that position, it take courage to stand and do the duty given to you. They deserve our respect for that alone.
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Maybe it's not quite the "bravery" that I find weird... I can't put my finger on it. Too late.
Just seems odd that we revere people to such an extent when to the majority of them it's just a job.
Anyway. Don't want to start a big argument so feel free to ignore me if needs be.
Just seems odd that we revere people to such an extent when to the majority of them it's just a job.
Anyway. Don't want to start a big argument so feel free to ignore me if needs be.
That entire site is insane, it literally boggles my mind that a group of people can think the way they do.
I am usualy relatively open minded and fine with religion but islam is messed up. I'm mean I'm not saying I have a problem with all muslims because I don't but damn I can only be so tolerant before going "Sorry, no, **** this, you're INSANE".
I am usualy relatively open minded and fine with religion but islam is messed up. I'm mean I'm not saying I have a problem with all muslims because I don't but damn I can only be so tolerant before going "Sorry, no, **** this, you're INSANE".
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It's a shame that the tabloids are further reinforcing joe public's belief that all muslims are evil. It's bad enough that these extremists are around but when a lot of the newspapers (and other news sources) turn on them, it gets far, far worse.
While I don't agree with parts of Islam, that's not enough of a reason to start hating them all.
On topic, surely the police should get some powers to deal with things like this which are quite clearly, acts of hate; obfuscated as protests.
While I don't agree with parts of Islam, that's not enough of a reason to start hating them all.
On topic, surely the police should get some powers to deal with things like this which are quite clearly, acts of hate; obfuscated as protests.
