Islamic protest march planned for Wootton Basset

drunkenmaster said:
Firstly, without question civilians are dying, not lots but to pretend no civilians are involved is stupid, and what muslims there are killing what civilians? I'm fairly sure muslims in Afghanistan aren't killing civilians over there, they are fighting our military, they are a defensive force, we're invading.

We're at the point where some completely and utterly innocent kid, from a farming family whose parents were killing earlier in this "war" was led to hate us because his family was killed as a result of us being there, so has joined up with their forces to fight us. That kids still innocent, he's doing nothing more in his eyes, than our lads did in the world wars to fight off Germany. We're an invading occupying force with no end game, no plan and realistically no reason. We're doing nothing more than breeding hate for us in the population of their country and other countries also. We're increasing the hatred for us and that will lead to a higher number of true fanatics who will commit terrorist actions against us and feel fully justified in doing so.

We aren't fighting the terrorist cells that blew up planes on 9/11, or tried to a few days ago, we're fighting largely innocent people who are angry or misled, the real criminals behind the real terrorist attacks are off hiding, probably completely safe planning more attacks, while we simply provide them with more fanatic followers.
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You appear to be very misinformed.

How do you think the Taliban took over and held rule in Afghanistan? Violence.

How do you think they are keeping local people scared and on their side? Violence.

The enemy we are fighting over there are invaders as well. Yes we don't belong there and innocent people are getting caught in the cross fire, but if we weren't there then the Pakistani/Iranian/Whatever Taliban fighters would simply take over as they did before. Given a choice, 80% or more of the local Afghan people want ISAF forces to stay and help get rid of the Taliban iirc.

Do a bit of searching, there are plenty of news articles on the horrendous things the Taliban have done to innocent people. Our troops aren't out their beating and murdering women the last time I checked? :/
 
dirtydog said:
:p I just found this thread via a link from SC.

Sadly these people aren't compatible with this country and they shouldn't be here because it is only going to end in tears :) As their numbers grow relative to ours, tensions will only get worse.
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Lots of people believe things that aren't compatible with standard British/English culture and beliefs, some are fringe political parties with racist agendas, others are groups that want to force secularity on the UK, some want to create a christian theocracy and some are muslims ;) Doesn't mean they should be kicked out though...
 
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Stolly said:
They want to ban clapping

http://www.islam4uk.com/islamic-systems/ritual-system/107-the-islamic-verdict-on-clapping

This is an important issue. I'm glad they are taking this seriously. If people did not clap world peace would be upon us.
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This just proves how utterly ridiculous they are, and how they interpret the Quran to fit whatever they wish it to say. The UK media help them by giving them airtime at the expense of the moderate view. This is all over the news, but where was the denouncement in october by the Muslim Council, nowhere. We have a media that are one-sided in what they report and this just adds to the entire radicalisation of people, Muslim and otherwise. Ignore them is probably the best way. If they attempt to break the law, arrest them and have a muslim sharia court deal with them. They wish an Islamic state, give it to them, but them only.
 
Gaidin109 said:
If they attempt to break the law, arrest them and have a muslim sharia court deal with them. They wish an Islamic state, give it to them, but them only.
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If they break the law, we have a legal system that is perfectly capable of dealing with them. Why on earth should they be treated differently ?

If they do wish to live in an Islamic state, there are a wide range of such places available for them. I'd even be happy for their tickets to be bought for them, one way to the Islamic paradise of their choosing.
 
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Stolly said:
If they break the law, we have a legal system that is perfectly capable of dealing with them. Why on earth should they be treated differently ?

If they do wish to live in an Islamic state, there are a wide range of such places available for them. I'd even be happy for their tickets to be bought for them, one way to the Islamic paradise of their choosing.
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Most other countries do not want them either. They wish to be judged by their values, thats fine. Allow a sharia court to deal with them. After the first couple of beheadings, stonings and amputations they will soon find that their subscription rate fall dramatically.

As for whether our current legal system is capable of dealing with them in a perfect way is highly debatable at best.
We can enact laws within our legal system to allow for sharia punishment within certain strict rules. Under Sharia law non-Muslims must pay tax called Jizya if they want to live safely in Muslim states, otherwise the state refuses to protect them, even though it protects the Muslim citizens, we could enact the opposite if they wish to live within that system. ;)
We currently recognise sharia if both sides in a legal dispute freely choose a Sharia court as a binding arbitrator rather than taking a matter before the official courts, just expand that outside of family law.

As for Islamic state that support their version of sharia, there are none. Most Islamic states operate a dual system, only India and the Phillipines have a separate muslim jurisprudence based wholly on sharia.
 
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MrMoonX said:
if they want to live in a muslim country go to iran or somewhere dont try to turn this country into a friend of islam
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I'm not suggesting we turn this country into an islamic state at all. I was being ironic anyway.

I dont think you will find that Britain is an enemy to Islam either, If it were then these nutters would have a point now wouldn't they.:rolleyes:
 
The only thing we have to worry about is if people react to it or take it on board. It's clear most of us do not agree with their manifesto, doesn't matter who they are whatsoever. It's what they represent.

If people ignore it and don't retaliate in a destrictive manner, hopefully they'll fizzle out like all other bad ideas.
 
Where's the outrage from the press? After all, if it were people peacefully protesting against extremist Islam then it would be front-page news.

Then again, we can't criticise and upset the Muslims now can we? People start to riot and things mysteriously start to burn and explode if anyone dare question those peace loving and tolerant people.
 
I hope they have decent tv reception, advertising this should attract ever idiotic ski head within 200 miles.
it should make exceptional tv...

I would really like to see students or lefties all geared up in costumes joining the parade to see the reaction of these muppets, but shame will never happen.
 
If the want to act like that then they should GTFO and fend for themselves back in there home land
 
PMKeates said:
Reading through some of their material, I disagree with many of their proclamations and proposals. However, they have a voice, and a right to be heard. To denounce their freedom of speech, and for me even if it's inciteful, would bring us down to the level that they want us to be.

It's obvious that they play on people's emotions and instincts. As someone else in the thread has said, we should imply ignore them. It's unfortunate that they've chosen to protest in a town that the media has made synonymous with our casualties of war in recent years. It's going to unnecessarily make a lot of people upset. But, we should leave that upset at sadness. Use the opportunity to again commend the efforts of our individual armed forces members, and use the go-ahead of this demonstration as exactly the reason why. The opposite would simply not be permissible in a radical Islamic state. We should relish our freedom. Their protest has a certain irony.
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I think you should drive down the street where their protest is being held, driving at "a tad over 30", might just take a few of them out ;) :p
 
Alex_6n2 said:
You appear to be very misinformed.

Do a bit of searching, there are plenty of news articles on the horrendous things the Taliban have done to innocent people. Our troops aren't out their beating and murdering women the last time I checked? :/
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The Americans funded those ********. Seriously, why is this always brought up?

Oh they're so horrible to their own people. Who cares? Do you give a damn about every oppressive regime in the world or is it just the Muslims you're so concerned about?

Maybe we should invade North Korea or Zimbabwe or anyone else our kind souls would like to lend a hand to. Lots of atrocities are commited everywhere.

And actually some troops (only a few) have committed horrendous acts on civilians although I hardly see why bombing them is that much better.
 
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