Islamic protest march planned for Wootton Basset
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I just won the catering for the event.
I WILL be stocking plenty of PORK ; )
I WILL be stocking plenty of PORK ; )
Al-Qaeda plot to murder family of sniper soldier
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-st...der-family-of-sniper-soldier-115875-21937662/
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-st...der-family-of-sniper-soldier-115875-21937662/
The general "wriggle room" argument is that Leviticus is specifically for the "Children of Israel" so only Jewish Christians need follow such harsh restrictions.
It seems God got a bit nicer some 2000 years ago and stopped acting as such a git (other than throwing babies in to hellfire, but that is up for debate too).Al-Qaeda plot to murder family of sniper soldier
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-st...der-family-of-sniper-soldier-115875-21937662/
So some people on the internet said they'd kill his family?
people on here have spoken of killing all sorts of people and their families for being politicians or having the audacity to star in reality tv...
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When did Choudry do that?. Ideology. A far-right extremist who followed the same view as Nick Griffins brethren blew by the FBI building in Oklahoma.
McVeigh was a libertarian and claimed that the bombing was revenge for "what the U.S. government did at Waco and Ruby Ridge."
Yeah not the best example
David Copeland is a better example, what with him being a BNP member and all
Most of what you are saying is your interpretation of Islam and Christianity. You assume muslims believe the Quran literally, which I disagree with. You assume Muslims beleive that putting Homosexuals to death is a widespread belief, when it is not. The bible give many quotes about beating, raping and stoning women not just the one given. I dont want to turn this into this quote, that quote.
You believe the majority of Muslims have a medieval view of their religion and Christians do not. I think this is false.
What the UN has got to do with media coverage of the wootton Basset denouncement by The BMC I have no idea.
I'm not naive about extremism or its effects, having witnessed what it can do in Bosnia, which with hindsight may bias me toward defence of Muslims, I dont know. I'm not saying they are more or less likely to turn a blind eye, but that all the religions are quilty of the same thing, Catholicism and the holocaust is an example. Overall, i think that separating the Islamic religion from the same expectations as the other main religions is going to cause more division and we could end up with another Bosnia at the extreme end of that.
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Yeah not the best example
David Copeland is a better example, what with him being a BNP member and all
Yeah, that guy put gays to death. Muhammed would be proud.
He is with the extremists that do such things to children and he is a big fat extremist liar.
"One former friend said: 'I can't keep a straight face when I see "fundamentalist Muslim Anjem Choudary" in the papers attacking the British for drinking or having girlfriends"
"'When I knew him, he liked to be called Andy, would often smoke cannabis spliffs all day, and was proud of his ability to down a pint of cider in a couple of seconds"
"And the woman on the cover of the Mayfair pornographic magazine he is looking at is certainly not wearing a burka"
"'And he was ruthless with girls. When he briefly worked as an English teacher for foreign students in London, he'd pull one of them every few days, sleep with her, then move on to another"
What a dumb ass he is...lmao
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I'm not advocating that he is a good guy, heaven forbid. I just think that all people with extreme views should be treated the same. Choudry didnt put a bomb on a twelve year old like someone mentioned, so why say it. That just inflames an already tense situation.
Like most extremists of any religion, or terrorists with any cause, most are just plain criminals who use others misfortune for their own gain.
Of course it is, being agnostic I believe in neither. I am just putting my interpretation of things gained from experience rather than "what is said in the book".
The Koran itself says it is the direct word of God. Muslims are banging on about how there is only one version of it (in Arabic) and how you have to read the arabic to really understand it. It would be hard to find a devout muslim (not an extremist) that doesn't consider the Koran to be the directly dictated word of God. However quite a few devout Christians will tell you the Bible is divinely inspired.
Probably because in almost every country that Islam is in charge this is the case (or other very strict punishments are proscribed). Pretty much every muslim I have spoken to about the subject has been pretty homophobic and somewhat evasive about what should be done about homosexuality.
The new testament however is somewhat gentler about the whole thing, must be God and his 2000 year old epiphany again...
So what is the excuse for the vast majority of Islamic nations having pretty much a medieval justice system?
Poor quoting on your behalf I believe. When you reply to my point about the UN being biased and muslims not condeming muslim atrocities with "I think that the problem lies with media coverage, rather than any actual denouncement."
To be honest I think it might be the case. The sense of muslim brotherhood is both a blessing and a curse. It gives them a sense of unity but can make them blind to their own failings. Moreso than other religons. The reaction to Afghanistan and Iraq are a point in case, it is seen by many muslims (both moderate and extreme) as a "crusade" against Islam when religion has nothing to do with it.
The general "wriggle room" argument is that Leviticus is specifically for the "Children of Israel" so only Jewish Christians need follow such harsh restrictions.
We have had various rewriting and reinterpretation of the Bible over the centuries, The Quran hasn't really been throught the same 'filtering'. there are groups who advocate re-interpretation of the Quran such as http://www.reformislam.org/
Ban Ki moon begins by denouncing the violence in Iraq:
http://www.un.org/apps/sg/sgstats.asp?nid=2549
Palestinians and the UN on stopping honour killings:
http://www.stophonourkillings.com/?q=node/3248
Syria doing the same:
http://www.wluml.org/node/3490
UN on Algeria:
http://www.afrol.com/articles/30370
Western Media report on the whole only stories that they deem relevent to their readership, so a story on muslim condemnation of muslim atrrocities in a muslim nation isnt going to get the byline, when Israel and US are far more newsworthy as far as they are concerned.
Only Saudi and Iran have a complete sharia based legal system. The major Islamic states, Pakistan, Jordan, Indonesia,Turkey, Egypt have a secular constitution and legal system. India and The Phillipines have both. Most other Islamic law systems are based on english common law and elements of sharia.
So the vast majority of Muslims actually life under secular legal systems and not Sharia ones.
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