God causes war
People cause war mate, they just use God in whatever form to justify it. If there wasn't any God, they would invent one.
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People cause war mate, they just use God in whatever form to justify it. If there wasn't any God, they would invent one.
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They were just following orders ... from God.
Humans, as a race, are better at no other thing than discovery. That is our main advantage over other animals, after all, it's why despite the fact that we have poor sensor and motor abilities compared to other animals we are even alive. If we stop attempting to understand our world and universe, what else do we really have? For many, to discover truly new things about the way that we live and how we exist is one of the ultimate goals in life. Why take the cop-out of an assumption when we have a perfectly good system for getting to the bottom of the issue?
Funny, I find people seem to have a phobia of nothingness. When discussing death with a friend once, he seemed adamant that we must have a consciousness when we die, even if we don't go to heaven or hell or otherwise have an afterlife. I asked him to explain but he couldn't, yet I suspect that really it's a deep-rooted denial in many of us that non-existence is simply too difficult to contemplate seriously. I have to ask, why should life, as an entity in and of itself, truly proceed anywhere? Is there any reason for it to other than to satisfy our insatiable lust for life?
How is that perfectly logical? I think this assumption takes intelligence for granted. In fact you've more or less argued throughout the duration of that post that an intelligence is likely to be the most fundamental part of the universe because it seems unlikely. As you say it is an assumption, and assumptions do not equate to knowledge. I don't see how you can just 'accept' things because it seems logical, without putting it through a logical process; that's illogical in itself!
I didn't know God was communicating with people?
Agreed. God gave people free will.
I recommend a book called Conversations With God by Neale Donald Walsch. It's a good thought provoking read.
Thanks. I'll give it a go.
So if god gave people free wil lwhy did he randomly kill them for indulging in it every so often?
Why not wait till thier dead and judge them like normal?
It's hardly free will when somone says "do whatever you like"
"but do this and I'll murder you"
"oh and one more thing if you don't act like I tell you during this one week (life) I will have you tortured/punished for the rest of your life (the after life)"
Doesn't sound like free will to me.
Why not wait till thier dead and judge them like normal?
It's hardly free will when somone says "do whatever you like"
"but do this and I'll murder you"
"oh and one more thing if you don't act like I tell you during this one week (life) I will have you tortured/punished for the rest of your life (the after life)"
Doesn't sound like free will to me.
I think that's a reflection of the language used to write it and the translations of it and of the religions at the times they were written. It's also worth bearing in mind that the meaning of words changes over time within the same language. Language seen as sex-specific in English today would not have been seen as sex-specific in the past.
I would argue that sexing the Christian god is wrong within a Christian context:
Part of Christianity is the idea that their god is omniscient and omnipotent.
If you argue that god is male because they don't know how to be female [EDIT: or vice versa], you are denying their omniscience.
If you argue that god is male because they can't be female [EDIT: or vice versa], you are denying their omnipotence.
So, clearly, according to fundamental Christian beliefs, their god can manifest as either sex. Or neither, or both, or some things we have no words for, or as an inanimate object, or as energy...there can't be any limits.
Besides, if this god created humanity in their own image and humanity is disexual, that would imply that god is too.
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Who? ...or what? 
A non-religeous, non-spiritual atheist.
A non-religeous, non-spiritual atheist.
God created man in his image. Ie Adam
He then created woman to please man/fulfil him/cause he was lonely or some crap.
Biologically a female has to exist in order for a non single cell organism to reproduce no?
You could say man invented God because he did not have the answers to life many eons ago who said he created man in his image and blaa blaa everyone had cake which wasn't a lie etc but that's only assuming people mean the same God from a major religions? There are many religions and cultures around the world that worship gods that are not just male but female and animal too so which god is The God?
I'd like to be agnostic as best as possible but religion just doesn't make sense when you look at it logically and factor in that there are so many religions and following one will displease the god of another - do they hold Mortal Kombat events at the pearly gates to decide which God gets you?
You could say man invented God because he did not have the answers to life many eons ago who said he created man in his image and blaa blaa everyone had cake which wasn't a lie etc but that's only assuming people mean the same God from a major religions? There are many religions and cultures around the world that worship gods that are not just male but female and animal too so which god is The God?
I'd like to be agnostic as best as possible but religion just doesn't make sense when you look at it logically and factor in that there are so many religions and following one will displease the god of another - do they hold Mortal Kombat events at the pearly gates to decide which God gets you?
When the translation was written, 'man' meant 'person' and 'Man' meant 'humanity'.
Prefer to think of Gods as more as 'consciousness'. If one appeared to a human then a form might be given as a marker for physical representation. Could appear as male or female or animal, God(s) is everywhere, everything....and no I am not 'religious'.
I like what you wrote there. I've always believed we are universal conciousness and interlinked. We are all God with no human above another. I'll flesh out my opinion a bit more after I get to work. Good topic.
Same as freedom of speech.
It is free will, but not freedom from consequences. Oh and who says you'll be tortured for ever. Not everyone believes that.
I've read most of that series of books - during a time when I needed some support in my life and they were good, light-hearted, spiritually uplifting reading. If there is any such thing as god, I want it to be the god from these books.
However I am now no longer in need of an emotional crutch to support my life and have since read The God Delusion, re-read a lot of the Bible, attempted to read some of the Koran and have settled into happy agnosticism for the time being.
