Poll: Is Overclocking Relevant?

[Trunks9486]

It depends.

And never for maximum overclocking. Balance is key. Even though i see that with age i tend to appreciate quietness more and more.

 

[Big.Wayne]

Hmmm I don't know which one to choose as I'm a bit of both?

Can we email a don to change the third option to this?

1. Yes, its important to run my PC as fast as I can
2. No, Noise ,heat and energy saving is more important
3. A *balance* of the above to suit my personal needs

 

[hedgey]

in the old days when pc gaming wasnt dead, it was important to me to get as many fps in Q3 as possible from a celeron that was far cheaper than a p3. but these days, meh. gaming is dead.

 

[Azza]

Can we put this in the overclocking section?


For CPU & Graphics card overclocking. I'm guessing not that many people overclock their graphics card, even if they overclock their CPU.


I've always overclocked both, just to try and get best performance and bang for buck as it were.


p.s. Big Wayne you got MSN?

 

[AMG]

yes and no


if your a gamer or a student, mostly both being able to overclock will save you money

for someone using thier computer in a living room style way IE using it for multimedia (watch DVDs etc) than no its not

 

[gurusan]

mmusst...overclock

 

[MagicBoy]

Yeah, it's important for the tweakers and modders. Less relevant generally than it used to say a few years ago be as hardware is much cheaper than it was and just about any dual core CPU is powerful enough to run non-demanding applications.

Energy use is a lot more relevant now than speed. Work are looking at replacing perfectly decent machines that are not Core 2's on power consumption grounds. The 2 year old Pentium Ds use 2.5x the amount of power. Times that by many machines and it's a lot of money saved on electricity.

 

[JohnnyG]

Hmmm I don't know which one to choose as I'm a bit of both?

Can we email a don to change the third option to this?

1. A *balance* of the above to suit my personal needs

I hope that's what you're after

 

[Alex R]

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk

"Is Overclocking Relevant?"

I know what you are trying to say easy and I'm with you on this, but I still thought it was funny.

(of course it is)

 

[chippy08]

Hmmm I don't know which one to choose as I'm a bit of both?

Can we email a don to change the third option to this?

1. Yes, its important to run my PC as fast as I can
2. No, Noise ,heat and energy saving is more important
3. A *balance* of the above to suit my personal needs

I totally agree a balance is what i would want.

 

[easyrider]

Just what I thought.

The majority who work hard and play hard,with the skills, want the fastest PC they can

muster.

Phew! Its good that companies are looking into shrinking fabrication and having cooler less power hungry hardware and all that.

Just means we can get higher clocks with less heat and noise and more performance

out of our hardware.Plus we don't have to get massive PSU's


For a minute...I thought I was in a different forum...Like a " I love to Frag but I don't

want to hurt the earth"

Glad the overclocking vibe still lives.

Its the human need for speed.

Embrace it

Easy


P.S The EDIT in my last part of the poll- A *balance* of the above to suit my personal needs.

This is too vague

My windows home server is underclocked using 45nm tech and draws very little watts. Reason being? its on 24/7 streaming media to my PS3 in my cinema room when i want.

The main Gaming/editing/photoshop/studio pc is a different beast....raw power is what counts thats why I overclock.

 

[Big.Wayne]

I hope that's what you're after

Cheers JohnnyG, Chelsea for the win!

Voted #3

A *balance* of the above to suit my personal needs

Once an Overclocker, always an Overclocker but these chips have become so flippin powerful now that outside of batch-encodes and heavy-duty processing work like Folding@Home I cannot tell the difference in actual day to day use between a mild overclocked/tweaked system and one that is at the absolute edge of stability!

The last really useful overclock I did for gaming was probably 2003 when I first played Far-Cry on a socket 478 Intel® Pentium® 2.8GHz (northwood) and a Radeon 9800 Pro @ 1024x768, some of the levels got well choppy so got the chip overclocked to 3.5GHz and bumped the GPU Core/Mem MHz and that made a really big difference!

Apart from that I hope AMD get some of that Turbo Boost® technology onboard soon because that is sweet tech!

What we gonna do when the computer can [Auto] overclock itself better than we can! . . . were all gonna be out of a job!

 

[Lightnix]

Definitely a balance. I mean I could run my CPU at 3.7GHz or so but it'd require tremendous voltages, and associated noise. Actually I'd say the real reason I don't run my E5200 at that kind of speed is that I'd be worried about the required voltages (1.4v-ish) killing the poor thing. Then again, I remember my E2140 would clock to 3GHz without getting very hot, but really that was just a better chip for its time.

 

[easyrider]

Cheers JohnnyG, Chelsea for the win!

Voted #3

A *balance* of the above to suit my personal needs

Once an Overclocker, always an Overclocker but these chips have become so flippin powerful now that outside of batch-encodes and heavy-duty processing work like Folding@Home I cannot tell the difference in actual day to day use between a mild overclocked/tweaked system and one that is at the absolute edge of stability!

I can

The last really useful overclock I did for gaming was probably 2003 when I first played Far-Cry on a socket 478 Intel® Pentium® 2.8GHz (northwood) and a Radeon 9800 Pro @ 1024x768, some of the levels got well choppy so got the chip overclocked to 3.5GHz and bumped the GPU Core/Mem MHz and that made a really big difference!

Oh really, Mine was clocking a 6400 from base to 3.8ghz

Wayne you're talking pap

 

[Big.Wayne]

Just what I thought

I think the conclusion to a poll choice like that would be pretty obvious!

But as we have already established canvassing opinions makes you feel happier your doing the right thing!

The majority who work hard and play hard,with the skills, want the fastest PC they can

I'm not being rude but do you include yourself in that majority!

Its good that companies are looking into shrinking fabrication and having cooler less power hungry hardware and all that.

Couldn't agree more . .

Just means we can get higher clocks with less heat and noise and more performance.

It also means the processor uses less voltage, it's a win/win situation! . . . one size does nearly fit all!

Plus we don't have to get massive PSU's

Well those in the know haven't had massive PSU's for ages, there is simply no need *except* for the big mama GPU set-ups . . .

I been pining for a modular ATX 200w for nealy two years!

For a minute...I thought I was in a different forum...Like a " I love to Frag but I don't

want to hurt the earth"

What made you think that?

Glad the overclocking vibe still lives.

Of course it still lives, why-ever not?

Its the human need for speed.

The human need for speed? . . .written on a laptop!

Embrace it

The EDIT in my last part of the poll- A *balance* of the above to suit my personal needs.

This is too vague

TBH a lot of people who post here don't fit strictly into either of the two choices you made available, I certainly didn't and by the sounds of it neither did you

My windows home server is underclocked using 45nm tech and draws very little watts. Reason being? its on 24/7 streaming media to my PS3 in my cinema room when i want.

Underclocked eh, I still haven;t had the heart to do that, it's almost against the old spirit of the OverClocker . . . . the best I can do is run it at stock [MHz] with the lowest voltage possible . . . once the processor load is like 10watts you kinda lose interest in taking it down below stock MHz although now you said that I should certainly consider it . .

I mean who could tell the difference between a Pentium E5200 dual core running at stock 2.5GHz in an ASUS P5Q-EM as a HTPC and one that is running at 2.0GHz or less, as long as it is running fast enough so it never slows down in usage your doing the right thing I guess . . .

Btw: easy you still didn't answer the question about power effiency, can you tell me how much 5watts cost a year in electricty usage say on a machine that was running 24/7 (in theory) on a HTPC?

Is it a lot 5watts run 24/7 over the course of a year?

 

[easyrider]

Definitely a balance. I mean I could run my CPU at 3.7GHz or so but it'd require tremendous voltages, .

What voltage?

You cannot imagine an overclock.

You either do it...then cool and share or have BS reeked posts.

 

[Big.Wayne]

Oh really, Mine was clocking a 6400 from base to 3.8ghz

Hey that's not bad easy, I remember back in the day when you posted that, I always wondered if that would be Prime Blend Stable!

Here's my best stable overclock, lovely chips those Wolfies!

I know why gurusan is staying put on LGA775, that system above was sick fast!

Wayne you're talking pap

Why?

 

[easyrider]

Underclocked eh, I still haven;t had the heart to do that, it's almost against the old spirit of the OverClocker

What I would do...is before you pimp energy saving and £'s saving etc.. you actually have a basis of arguement.

The mere fact you haven't underclocked shows the banal attack of your thought process.

Its easy

PC's that are on all the time = underclocked near silent home server

Everything else raw speed

 

[Big.Wayne]

What I would do...is before you pimp energy saving and £'s saving etc.. you actually have a basis of arguement

I do?

I said it's a matter of getting a *balance* between the best clock you can while at the same time keeping an eye on the power being drawn from the wall . . . . I know some people will use as much volts as possible to take their chip to the very edge . . . I used to do that myself but then I realised there was a Sweetspot on the overclock where you got a good *balance* between performance and running costs . . . . for instance on that Wolfdale overclock above I didn't really need to run it daily at beyond 3.6GHz with much lower voltage than it needed for 4.25GHz . . .didn;t notice it myself, but lets be honest a 3.6GHz Wolfdale Dual-Core with 6mb cache is trememdous still!

The mere fact you haven't underclocked shows the banal attack of your thought process

No it's not that easy it's just that the motherboard was at it's lowest vCore adjustment and I couldn't reduce the voltage any further! . . .didn't feel the need to carry on beyond that but you may be right, those extra 5watts may have made the difference?

Do you know how much 5watts cost to run a year 24/7 easyrider?

Good chips those E5200's for undervolting, pimped them a lot too!

Its easy

what undervolting and underclocking? . . yeah we know that

PC's that are on all the time = underclocked near silent home server

Did you get into *passive* cooling yet?

Everything else raw speed

It's not quite that simple is it? . . . you see some people are now combining their Workstation/Gaming machine with the Low-Wattage HTPC/Homeserver, basically a one sized fits all machine . . . I tried to build a prototype back in March 2008 but it wasn't possible at that time to combine everything into a Jarvis style 24/7 hybrid machine as the flippen graphics cards ate so much juice when idling . . . good old AMD saved the day with their Evergreen series (HD 5XXX) with their sic low idle power usage they make a perfect fit for a perpetual Hybrid machine!

Thanks AMD!

 

[easyrider]

Change your pic size...Then I will talk to you