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Best CPU for £120 new build.

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No as the Propus is manufactured with no cache . . . however some Deneb dies have turned up disguised as Rana X3's :D

Rana = Propus with one core disabled (should be anyway!)
 
Haha, to be honest Easy it will be much cheaper and would be fine for you needs. Even better if you unlock from 3 to 4 cores. :)


I might make a thread if I can be bothered tonight.
 
We need like an AMD unlocking thread with a big table showing everything. :D
I think the *unlock* aspect is quite fun, although I'm slightly wary it's an evil-genius marketing plan from AMD to sell more chips! :p

Viewed as a possible *perk* it's great, if you get an unlock that's Prime Stable your a jammy so and so . . . if you don't get the unlock then tough! ;)

I don't like the idea of people become addicted to unlocking though, it makes so sense spending £60 + £60 etc when you could have just bought a guaranteed Deneb X4 in the first place . .

Lets just say I'm not gonna be buying any *used* AII/PhII's :cool:
 
dare I say it I might go AMD for my studio PC build:eek::D
The Athlon II's run extremely cool, no need for a fan on the heatsink if you keep a reasonable overclock and vCore! . . . I think the 6MB level 3 cache on the Deneb core does make them run a fair bit hotter.

There's a general problem in the forum atm with "It's so cheap? must be poop?" kinda thing, people have associated a high-price tag with a guarantee of quality i.e It's not really possible to get good kit without spending a good packet . . . the Athlon II is impressing me, you get way more Transistors for your money than Intel.

But the real pleasure with this platform is the AMD 785G chipset, they literally have the feature set of a £100-£150 motherboard in my eyes anyway! . . . I'm such a Tweaking-Addict I always need a BIOS that allows to play! . . . for £100-£120 for processor and motherboard my needs and wants are well accommodated . . .theres a good chance yours may be as well! :cool:
 
And just for the record, I think I found out the three-steps most of us have to go through before we will make a purchase . . .

  1. admire
  2. aspire
  3. acquire
I'm working hard in the forums atm on adjusting #1 . . . there is a lot to admire about the price/performance ratio of the *Ice-Dragon* Platform . . . :D

It's a no-brainer . . . the only real debate is Propus vs Deneb or DDR2 vs DDR3 :cool:
 
I can afford £120 on the CPU on its own.
Is the AMD Athlon II X3 425 really the best for the £120?

Wouldn't one of the below be better?

Intel Core i3 540 3.06GHz (Clarkdale) (Socket LGA1156) - Retail [BX80616I3540]

Intel Core 2 Quad Q8400 LGA775 'Yorkfield' 2.66GHz 4MB-cache (1333FSB) Processor

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 LGA775 'Wolfdale' 3.00GHz (1333FSB)

AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 955 Black Edition 3.2GHz (Socket AM3)

AMD Phenom II X3 Tri Core 720 Black Edition 2.80GHz (Socket AM3) only £100

Intel Core i5 750 2.66Ghz (Lynnfield) (Socket LGA1156) - OEM £145

I really seriously would NOT move from a E6600 @ 3gig to an AMD X3 setup... you WILL be dissapointed - thats not to say its a bad setup just won't be much of a move forward.

and I'm also going to say don't listen to big.wayne - I don't mean this disrespectfully - he is by far one of the most knowledgable people on these boards when it comes to CPUs... but... hes completely hung up on these budget X3 systems at the moment - granted they pack a massive punch for the money... but they aren't a good upgrade path for anyone with a decent LGA775 system and aren't the best choice if you have a moderate budget to play with.


EDIT: Looking at the CPU support list for your motherboard interestingly it now "supports" the Yorkfield quad cores "unofficially" from the F7 BIOS onwards... the most cost effective upgrade path - even tho its a dead end - would be to see if a Q9400 or Q9550 works in your current board. Otherwise I wouldn't spend the money on something that you will see marginal at best performance difference - either go the whole hog and get a decent quad core system i.e. i5 750 or i7 860 w/ P55 or stick with what you have.
 
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I dont intend to have a GFX card as I will be using onboard GFX for the studio PC.

Does the 785G perfrom better in windows 7 than the new H55 and i3?
 
I really seriously would NOT move from a E6600 @ 3gig to an AMD X3 setup... you WILL be dissapointed - thats not to say its a bad setup just won't be much of a move forward
Sorry I wasn't fully aware that was the case?

While there is some truth to what you say Rroff I did this move myself from E8400/P5Q-E to AIIX3/785G and pocketed £100 approx so it worked out well . . . you could call that the steroid easyshuffle! ;)

and I'm also going to say don't listen to big.wayne
Hehe good advice, I couldn't agree more :p

hes completely hung up on these budget X3 systems at the moment
What do you mean I am talking to much about my 1 month old system, sorry I can't help it, It's really good! :o

What else can I talk about then? . . . I got nothing else to do apart from helping people with their trouble-shooting :D
the most cost effective upgrade path - even tho its a dead end - would be to see if a Q9400 or Q9550 works
In your humble opinion or?

Is it something we can discuss or is it carved-in-stone? :cool:
 
What do you mean I am talking to much about my 1 month old system, sorry I can't help it, It's really good! :o

What else can I talk about then? . . . I got nothing else to do apart from helping people with their trouble-shooting :D

In your humble opinion or?

Is it something we can discuss or is it carved-in-stone? :cool:

I think what Rroff is getting at Wayne me old mucker is the fact that you

have yourself been pimping AMD for the past few weeks and you even have

admitted it yourself.:p

Also Rroff feels that coming from an E6600 @ 3ghz to an Athlon II X3 will not

see huge gains. This upgrade means buying a whole new mobo when in

essence all he needs to do is get one of the 45nm Quads to see a big boost

in performance and more than likely out performing your Athlon II X3 for

the same outlay.

:cool:
 
Don't get me wrong - those X3 setups are mean little packages... but the OP sig says "GA-965P-DS3P Rev3.3. C2D [email protected]" which I assume is what hes upgrading from... and tbh for gaming they won't give a significant increase in performance or smoothness...

Spending £120 on a 955 then motherboard, etc. comes to quite a bit more than buying a Q9550 which will generally be better for gaming - and chances are it will work with his board tho I need to find comfirmation of that... and tbh theres no guarantee the AM3 platform he buys will be any more upgradable down the line than the LGA775 platform - its quite common with AMD boards that new generation of CPUs goes beyond the wattage teh board is designed for even tho the socket is compatible - amongst other changes.
 
Don't get me wrong - those X3 setups are mean little packages... but the OP sig says "GA-965P-DS3P Rev3.3. C2D [email protected]" which I assume is what hes upgrading from... and tbh for gaming they won't give a significant increase in performance or smoothness...

Spending £120 on a 955 then motherboard, etc. comes to quite a bit more than buying a Q9550 which will generally be better for gaming - and chances are it will work with his board tho I need to find comfirmation of that... and tbh theres no guarantee the AM3 platform he buys will be any more upgradable down the line than the LGA775 platform - its quite common with AMD boards that new generation of CPUs goes beyond the wattage teh board is designed for even tho the socket is compatible - amongst other changes.


Looks like F7 bios on the GA-965P-DS3P Rev3.3 will support Q9550.

From my experience if it says N/A then its a non starter. Anything else is ok.
 
It says its supported but not officially supported... but from my experience with gigabyte that usually means it works heh. But I'd rather have confirmation on that before advising anyone to buy.
 
you have yourself been pimping AMD for the past few weeks
Yes but there is no shame in that? . . unless we are having different meanings of the word "Pimp" :p

Which is more useful . . .
  • Someone pimping hardware they own
  • Someone pimping hardware they don't own
I hope you get your mind made up soon and get an order in, I can tell you are really keen to begin your project! :cool:
 
Don't get me wrong - those X3 setups are mean little packages... but the OP sig says "GA-965P-DS3P Rev3.3. C2D [email protected]" which I assume is what hes upgrading from
Rroff, the problem I have hear is you have stormed into a thread where a pleasant discussion was talking place, broadcasted to the interweb to "ignore" me and declared that a 2 year old [45nm] chip is the one true option! :D

And the basis for your statement is an "Assumption"

Always, always, always *Clarify* something before letting of your big guns please! . . . at least when I'm involved! :cool:
 
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