Citroen C2 VTS
- Thread starter phd
- Start date
people would assume so, but in reality i don't think this is the case. any clio i've been in has been just as rattly as any small citroen. if anything they are just as bad as eachother.
again, not really going to be a lot in it is there realistically... 'far superior'? lulz.
in the straights it will pull away obviously, but the little C2 would be on it's tail again no doubt through the corners.
fez ST is probably a better shout in overall terms, although your still looking at similar performance and higher running costs.
LOL at that. Most people probably havent even been in one no matter driven one. All what matters is that you like the feel of the car. It is pretty fast for what it is, about as quick as a Lupo GTi and other non turbod cars with small engines.
I do agree with some points on here but at the end of the day is a small hatch with a bit of speed that you'll probably enjoy. You dont have to prove anything to anyone just dont come on here if it break cause people will have a bash at you for buying it.
i'm not a huge fan on the outside looks either tbh, the Saxo was quite a good looking car externally which appealed to a larger range of people. i think the C2 is a bit more marmite, more of a 'grower'.
but then Citroen are the born leaders in controversial and innovative styling, its what they do best
but then Citroen are the born leaders in controversial and innovative styling, its what they do best
welcome to ocuk
many like to play Clarkson with their instant dismissals based on very little!
Im fairly sure that most people appreciate just how good cars like the 182/172 are on OCUK, regardless of how French it is
If the C2 VTS was nearly as good as a Renaultsport Clio this thread wouldn't be focused on build quality or be 3 pages long.
i'but then Citroen are the born leaders in controversial and innovative styling, its what they do best
Indeed, many are gonna hate the new DS range, I think the DS3 is stunning mind.
yes it would. there has always been considerable dismissal linked to Cit based on the badge alone here. this will never change.
ditto, a worthy upgrade i'm sure. early press looks promising too
Incorrect. The VTS Saxo is quite well received on here due to it's merits as a fun drivers car, despite the fact it's interior quality is dreadful.
No I haven't driven one, but I have been in one, a friend of mine went to test drive the VTS once, he bought a Mini Cooper instead, he hadn't got a nice thing to say about the C2, I think he just fancied something very small and 'chuckable' ...whatever chuckable means exactly.
Anyway he typically likes cars with the C2's formula, or at least the one it is pertaining to achieve. Unlike me, who admittedly am more used to and have more experience of executive saloons and upwards, he is quite used to small cars with lots of plastic and he said the C2 was rubbish. The one I was a passenger in once wasn't a VTS but I imagine the interior is much the same, and it was like sitting in something from Toys-R-Us to be honest. I do sometimes think my opinion is skewed by the cars I am used to living with day to day, but apparently I wasn't totally out of whack with my thoughts on the C2.
You’re partially right about the statistics though i think, they aren't really all that accurate I'm sure, but I imagine that there is a degree of truth in there somewhere, I can't imagine people haven't been lambasting the car for it's faults since it came out for no reason other than to make some noise about something. Just like I can't imagine Jaguar have been near the top something like 5 years running for no reason either.
Last edited:
surely coming from an XJ to any small french town car is hardly going to impress don't you think?
not really! i find only a select few of us actually back them. many i find just dismiss them with the typical saxo-syndrome.
Well indeed, that's my problem when judging anything like this, I probably get to 'experience' a car like this once every 6 months these days, if that.
How do you judge a car like the C2 as anything but crap when it costs what to buy brand-new? ...the VTS I am guessing is something like £11-£12k or so, well guess what, you can buy my car for that, actually less than that now, you can buy a 5 year old XJR (the supercharged 400bhp one) for £12k.
So why you would ever want to buy a C2 VTS when you could spend the same money on something in a totally different league I have no idea. I understand there is a big difference in running costs, but the reality is, assuming you are over about 25, that the costs of owner ship probably don't differ massively, when you take into account that a £50k car bought for £12k has already done the vast majority of it's depreciating. The C2 VTS is just getting started, and depreciation is usually the most costly part of car ownership.
Ok so the to look after a Jaguar XJ for 3 years 'might' cost you even more than the C2's maintanence and all it's depreciation if it goes wrong, but if it doesn't and you don't chew through tyres and breaks like an F1 driver, I bet they are similar. I haven't worked it out, but just a thought anyway. And you could still pick a car that is much cheaper than an XJ or an S class to run but is vastly better than a C2 VTS, such as a BMW 3 series with a six pot, or an ST220 or whatever.
Of course if you buy the C2 VTS when it’s a few years old it’s self, this changes, but at that point the Citroen is fairly likely to start to break, and if something major breaks, I bet it isn't all that cheap to fix it either.
I am pretty sure that given the budget to buy one of these C2 VTS's new, you could use it in an optimal fashion to balance the costs of an older used car against the depreciation and running costs of a new C2 and come out on top, with a much better car and possibly an cheaper ownership experience.
Last edited:
well for a start lets not compare a french town car with supercharged and 6 pot luxury cruisers completely different ball game. thats your personal preference with regards to what kind of car you would be after which many would not agree with. remember hot hatches are generally aimed at teenagers and young adults who financially cannot afford much more.
the C2 VTS on release was actually a good grand less than the Fez ST, and £2-3k less than the Clio RS's of the time as well as being IG 8, compared to the 13 of the Fez and 16 of the Clio... so in that respect they really arn't that bad. not that i condone buying any of these sorts of cars brand new as all will depreciation like a stone.
i generally think for any new 18-19 year old looking for a cheap to run, sporty little number to boot around in, considering you can pick up a 2-3 year old example with 20k on the clock for £4-5k, it represents decent VFM.
completely different ball game. thats your personal preference with regards to what kind of car you would be after which many would not agree with. remember hot hatches are generally aimed at teenagers and young adults who financially cannot afford much more.the C2 VTS on release was actually a good grand less than the Fez ST, and £2-3k less than the Clio RS's of the time as well as being IG 8, compared to the 13 of the Fez and 16 of the Clio... so in that respect they really arn't that bad. not that i condone buying any of these sorts of cars brand new as all will depreciation like a stone.
i generally think for any new 18-19 year old looking for a cheap to run, sporty little number to boot around in, considering you can pick up a 2-3 year old example with 20k on the clock for £4-5k, it represents decent VFM.
Last edited:
Very fair point on my preferences, which I admit I find it hard to see around quite often. But even then at 19-20 one of these for £4-£5k I would say isn't really that great still, I think I'd run something altogether cheaper and bank some money until 21 when you can get something much more interesting for the same sort of money. Although I realise it's very easy to say that looking back, when you're 19 and you want to get out there and have some fun driving, 21 seems like a long time to wait. I know as I remember that feeling myself.
Perhaps in the context of a car for a very young person, as in under 21, with £5k to spend, then I can see the point of it, otherwise, I just think it's a bad deal alround really.
i agree, just isn't worth it in my eyes. but like you say, unfortunately many people arn't the same in this age bracket and will be looking to splash out in this market, something citroen have always seemed to take advantage of with the 'free insurance' they offered with the saxo on release and now the cheap insurance groupings of the current line up. its no surprise they sell so well in this niche of the market.
Right folks, been down to have a look at it as I got away early from work today and took it for a short test drive. Decided its not for me. Didn't like the driving position and the steering was far too light. Interior seemed OK (albeit rather plasticy) apart from a small mark on one of the seat and the rest of the car was in excellent condition. Did like the digital dash mind you. Driving it however didn't really do anything for me, really had to put the foot down to get the thing to shift. After having a shot im a bit skeptical about 8 seconds 0-60 time it's supposed to have.
However while I was down I had a look at some of the other cars for sale and they had a Fabia VRS which had just come in, a bit over my budget and higher miles but looked very nice and from what I've heard are pretty bulletproof, performance and reliability wise. So I think I'm going to hold off for a while and save up a bit more cash, wait until something more sensible is available. Glad I got that out my system!
However while I was down I had a look at some of the other cars for sale and they had a Fabia VRS which had just come in, a bit over my budget and higher miles but looked very nice and from what I've heard are pretty bulletproof, performance and reliability wise. So I think I'm going to hold off for a while and save up a bit more cash, wait until something more sensible is available. Glad I got that out my system!
Last edited: