No it is not. It's always the white people with nothing better to do, that take the offense.
Does making a racist joke make the teller a racist?
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No it is not. It's always the white people with nothing better to do, that take the offense.
In what way is it not? if it's the joke being racist that makes it funny then to some extent you share the views that make it racist, if the bit that makes it funny isn't racist then I wouldn't class it as a racist joke, a joke about race but not a racist joke. A joke about race doesn't have to be racist or outright offensive.[Cas];15732417 said:
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To find it funny you could just be acknowledging that it's a racial stereotype.
Of course it doesn't. Nearly all jokes take the mick out of one group or the other.
However don't say it in a workplace. Common-sense in a workplace, if it is overheard could someone get annoyed or find it racist? if the answer is yes, then don't say it as you are likely to get into trouble.
However don't say it in a workplace. Common-sense in a workplace, if it is overheard could someone get annoyed or find it racist? if the answer is yes, then don't say it as you are likely to get into trouble.
Not sure I get the distinction you're making... However I do think that there's a different between someone making a racist joke to be taboo and naughty, and someone making a racist joke purely to have a laugh at the subject of the joke.
As an analogy, a domestic violence gag:
"What do you tell a woman with two black eyes?"
"Nothing, she's already been told twice!"
I tell that joke, I find it funny; the punchline is amusing and it's taboo. But clearly I don't advocate violence towards women, being one myself - and I would hear my bloke telling it and trust he didn't believe the sentiment either.
the distinction is that by telling a joke about domestic abuse you're not and in no conceivable way committing domestic abuse, whereas by telling a racist joke, one which like I said is definitely racist and offensive, you are being racist (irrespective of whether you consider yourself to be a racist), if the joke itself is racist then telling the joke is saying something racist, i.e. being racist.
If you think like that I hope you extend the same feelings to England, scot, Ireland jokes. Jokes about all religion, countries.
Most jokes play to stereotypes and take the mick out of a certain group
What feelings? That something that is said can be racist? I'm not saying that the person saying it is a racist in this instance, I am saying that the act of saying it is racist.
Not sure what that has to do with telling offensive jokes, I've made clear I'm of the opinion that a joke is just a joke and I don't think racist jokes should be outlawed.
Does not make sense. Things are not inherently racist. Racism is someone feelings.
Oh, I see. By telling a joke I can be (and probably am being) racist without having done anything, as it's a state of mind.
I guess domestic violence, dead babies and rape are all actions, not opinions. I can't be a rapist until a commit rape, or a beater until I hit someone... But I could be a sympathiser, I suppose?
Trying to think of an analogy that fits, now... How about that I will happily tell sexist jokes, derogatory to women? The incongruity of my telling them as a woman amuses me even further...
I still think there's a difference between telling a joke purely for shock value as opposed to telling it to specifically attack a demographic group.
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Is this considered a racist joke ? are any Muslims here offended by it?
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But you would be being sexist, in your view.
That's just a play on words, isn't it.
But it still unsettles me - however is that because of social conditioning and current World situation just telling me that Muslim jokes are best avoided full stop?
You totally disgust me. That is appalling, you are scum.*
(only because it's a crap joke)
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Is ******** a swear word? I thought it was just another term for testicle/balls, and used in the same adjective context as 'crap'?
The phrase "I'd hit it like a ginger stepchild" (in reference to an attractive lady) borrows from themes of domestic violence, child abuse, and racism. For the person to be deemed a racist, sexist, child abuser for saying it is a backwards leap for common sense.
The phrase "I'd hit it like a ginger stepchild" (in reference to an attractive lady) borrows from themes of domestic violence, child abuse, and racism. For the person to be deemed a racist, sexist, child abuser for saying it is a backwards leap for common sense.
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Everyones a little racist deep down, not in a hurtful way it's just humanity.
As with all 'bad taste' jokes, it all depends on context and delivery. Some people are just crap at telling jokes, and cannot make it obvious what exactly they are laughing at. For example, with jokes of the 'dead baby' (DB) variety, the humour is taken from how extreme the disgust created is. There is a similar effect with racist jokes.
However, DB jokes are far more extreme than racist jokes, which in a sense makes them more acceptable. It's clear from this very forum that there are people who discriminate based on religion and race, so whilst horror jokes pack impact because they are unrealistic, there are obviously those who think racist jokes are partially observational comedy, which is why I find them more tasteless.
However, you have to let out the bad taste on occation if you can find appropriate context to do so. For example, at a recent dinner party, a Swedish friend was explaining that fish was the cultural dish of her home nation....
Friend: "So would you say that fish is to Sweden as sausages is to Germany?"
Swedish friend: "Absolutely! In preparation, first we skin them, then cover them in acid, then bury them to allow..."
Me: "Woah woah woah! He said sausages, not Jews!"
However, DB jokes are far more extreme than racist jokes, which in a sense makes them more acceptable. It's clear from this very forum that there are people who discriminate based on religion and race, so whilst horror jokes pack impact because they are unrealistic, there are obviously those who think racist jokes are partially observational comedy, which is why I find them more tasteless.
However, you have to let out the bad taste on occation if you can find appropriate context to do so. For example, at a recent dinner party, a Swedish friend was explaining that fish was the cultural dish of her home nation....
Friend: "So would you say that fish is to Sweden as sausages is to Germany?"
Swedish friend: "Absolutely! In preparation, first we skin them, then cover them in acid, then bury them to allow..."
Me: "Woah woah woah! He said sausages, not Jews!"