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2x 5770's or 1x 5850?

dan7777 said:
i dont see the need to run furmark for 6 hours does anyone else ? ive heard so many bad storys of people killing there cards running furmark for to long so i run it for 30 mins and we will see but the fact is ive played the most demanding game maxed out 1920x1200 4AA surely that would stress the card enough to make it unstable if it was but its running fine. im not immature im just stating a fact why spend the extra on a 5870 when there aint much different at all really. to be honest if your on a budget op then go 2x5770 but a single 5850 would be better.
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U said it yourself you beilive it to be the most demanding game and thing out there it's not just a game that plays well that tells you your card is fine.

u probably wouldn't even notice minor artifacting on crysis like you would ati tool which i find very accurate and picks up artifacts way before anything else.

if i overclock to much i see a big black bar running through my gun on crysis looks like he's holding a gun and iron bar at the same time but i didn't just base my conclusion of that
some games out there would show problems before others hence why ati tool has profile switching for different overclocks and games.

i can play crysis with my overclock fine but if i play broken sword 4 i get artifacts so you can't just base everything of a single game.

I'm not going any further into this with you just advising you how it is for the welfare of your card.

i would never dream of testing like you've said but you seem addamant it's fine so i'll leave it be..
 
From OCUK:

MSI 5870 = £327
5850 = £260
EDIT: 2 x 5770 = £254 (or buy my second hand 5770 asus tweak and buy a second full price :p)

There the ones that are instock, not £100 difference. In my eyes this makes the 5870 viable if your going to buy now.

The 5850's have been so inflated you may as well buy the 5870. I'm probably going to do this, see how BC2 runs on my single 5770 first.
 
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bigjimmyauk said:
U said it yourself you beilive it to be the most demanding game and thing out there it's not just a game that plays well that tells you your card is fine.

u probably wouldn't even notice minor artifacting on crysis like you would ati tool which i find very accurate and picks up artifacts way before anything else.

if i overclock to much i see a big black bar running through my gun on crysis looks like he's holding a gun and iron bar at the same time but i didn't just base my conclusion of that
some games out there would show problems before others hence why ati tool has profile switching for different overclocks and games.

i can play crysis with my overclock fine but if i play broken sword 4 i get artifacts so you can't just base everything of a single game.

I'm not going any further into this with you just advising you how it is for the welfare of your card.

i would never dream of testing like you've said but you seem addamant it's fine so i'll leave it be..
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i hear your point but... crysis isnt the only game i play MW2 FC2 all seems fine but will do some more stress tests.
 
Oxy said:
From OCUK:

MSI 5870 = £327
5850 = £260
EDIT: 2 x 5770 = £254 (or buy my second hand 5770 asus tweak and buy a second full price :p)

There the ones that are instock, not £100 difference. In my eyes this makes the 5870 viable if your going to buy now.

The 5850's have been so inflated you may as well buy the 5870. I'm probably going to do this, see how BC2 runs on my single 5770 first.
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inflated because everyone sees that the difference between the 5850-5870 is nothing so everyone is buying the cheaper card and overclocking it.
 
Now the difference is viable surely?

5850's have reason like 10-25%?

I admit I need to look at benchies of the 5870 but with the difference in price reduced as the 5850 has increased so much it's gotta be worth a look now?
 
I personally would wait until Fermi comes out providing you have something already that plays games at reasonable frame rates and settings. There's not much out there at the moment that needs Dx11 and to be honest, the Dx11 games that are out or in the pipe lines don't even appeal to me except for maybe 1 game. Plenty of time for Dx11 game development to mature allowing you to save up and fully see what both hardware manufacturers have to offer.

I find it really annoying that people are paying a huge chunk on top of rrp prices.. you should all relax and keep your e-peens inside your trousers until they price them sensibly... talk about a recession proof market!!
 
dan7777 said:
i hear your point but... crysis isnt the only game i play MW2 FC2 all seems fine but will do some more stress tests.
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not just stress but test playability also use fraps to get an idea of gains you could probably lose some of your overclock and only lose 1 fps at most... most people don't even notice 5fps if it's already over 30fps to start with so look into it to see if you can shave some overclock but keep the speed similar.

then you would in turn not lose anything but gain some more longetivity of your card
 
wow!

I've come back to a thread of argument!!!

I'm not on a particular budget I just

a) liked the idea of 2 cards
b) saw the 5770's outperformed the 5870 in some tests
c) liked the fact that they're quicker and cheaper

With all this I'm still no further ahead as to my choice and I'd like to get them at the end of the month...

Unfortunately stock seems to be a problem everywhere...

To reiterate the choice is either

1) 2x 5770's in SLI or,

2) 1x 5870

Price difference is dependent on cards chosen but can be up to £100 difference...that differnece could get me a spangly new PSU...
 
I'm sorry but I'm going to correct you here.. its called Crossfire not SLi ;)

Lots of people here are Happy with their 5770 Crossfire setups, I've not found one review that suggests 'Choppy Framerates' or naff performance from them.

Yet the 5870 & 5850 owners seem to make out that the 5770 CF suffers from this.

We need Martin1991? in here.. he sold his 5870 and bought 2 x 5770s.
 
I don't think some people like the fact that crossfired 5770's consistantly outperform the 5870. Those that are saying otherwise are either ill informed or like spending more money than they could have. I can understand buying a 5850/70 if you have mobo constraints. I think there is some tech snobery going on as well.
 
For the most part crossfire 5770's offers I find higher framerates than the 5870.

I have an issue though where in FPS games if there is a flashbang and it goes off then the whole screen goes into a mess like one of the other posters mentioned. That is certainly a problem that needs to be addressed sooner or later. Although I do not know if this affects crossfire 5870 and 5970 users.

Also in mW2 using the thermal scope there are issues. None of these manifested itself while Iwas running a 5870. The second card stuck at 3d clocks don't bother me and neither the 3d mark benchies getting stuck just before it enters the test cpu mode as I never held much stock in those tests. I never had any of these issues with crossfired 4890's.

As far the choppy framerate. I suppose it really does depend on what res you run at. I do exeperience some sort of stutter in certain type of games but that could be down to just games which don't use the crossfire abilities properly. At my native res there are a few which I am not exactly happy with. I don't think it is crossfire either as when I had crossfired 4890's i never noticed this kind of choppy framerate or stuttering. This could be down due to the 5770's memory interface bandwidth I suspect but am hoping it just a driver issue which can be easily fixed with an update.

I like the 5770 setup for the performance it offers at it price point. Also the low power requirements and it relatively quiet operation compared to other cards I have had appeal to me. But I think I will wait for the official 10.1 or whatever they decide to call it to see if the the problems I have been having still manifest itself.

I am more than hoping they will fix it but if not then I think it time to call it a day with these cards and accept a drop in max Fps and return to the 5870.
 
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JeffyB said:
I don't think some people like the fact that crossfired 5770's consistantly outperform the 5870. Those that are saying otherwise are either ill informed or like spending more money than they could have. I can understand buying a 5850/70 if you have mobo constraints. I think there is some tech snobery going on as well.
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This is the point I was hinting at.. Tech Snobbery at its finest maybe? :p
 
JeffyB said:
I don't think some people like the fact that crossfired 5770's consistantly outperform the 5870. Those that are saying otherwise are either ill informed or like spending more money than they could have. I can understand buying a 5850/70 if you have mobo constraints. I think there is some tech snobery going on as well.
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what a load of **** they don't consistantly outperform the 5870 there are plent of test out there that prove that think you talking about the fact the 3 main testers alll use nearly the same set-up and games/benchmarks to test lets face it what are the common ones

crysis,far cry,cod,vantage u know them all

it makes me laugh you cf5770 owners never seem to mention the minimum frame rates the 5870 out performs the 5770CF on nearly all but a few test
think i'd sooner have the gpu thats gives me better min FPS and maybe 2-3 less fps max
 
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