Poll: Which party will get your vote in the General Election?

[Hatter The Mad]

Labour have been diverting Department for International Development aid money to the Trade Union Congress in the UK: http://conservativehome.blogs.com/l...een-granted-to-the-trades-union-congress.html

Julian Harris, Research Fellow at IPN and co-author of "A Closer Union: The Political Abuse of Foreign Aid", said, "This would appear to be a grotesque abuse of taxpayer funds. Not only is the money not going towards promoting economic development in poor countries - it is going to a group whose members have close political and financial ties to the Labour Party."

 

[Bald-Eagle22]

I am afriad as a spoil vote the BNP get mine.

 

[dante6491]

I am in two minds about that. Good because we are keeping the money "in house" for a change; how can you look after others when you cannot look after yourself? However i really do not like the trade unions. :S

 

[Hatter The Mad]

I am in two minds about that. Good because we are keeping the money "in house" for a change; how can you look after others when you cannot look after yourself? However i really do not like the trade unions. :S

You're missing the point. Labour are bankrolled by trade unions. Labour are bankrolling trade unions under a guise. This is defrauding us.

 

[robgmun]

I am 33 years old, i have lived through the Thatcher and Major years , and i have read up extensively on the horror that was previous Labour government. I have seen enough through the years to know the difference between them, no matter of the new clothes or what

Labour - If they have money in the coffers, they squander it on stupid endeavours that try to benefit everyone and ends up wasting money an benefits no one. They are also control freaks and want to govern every aspect of your lives

Conservatives - If they have extra in the coffers they plough it back into the populous via tax cuts. Helping people directly. They are also better (kinder to) economic immigrants and not the types that sponge of the state.

yeah the rich get richer, but that means that you really benefit if you get of your lazy ass and work hard, you will be rewarded, unlike the labour lot that just want to tax you more the better at life you do.

I want there to be a ladder to climb

socialism is the fallacy of trying to make everyone equally well off, in the end it only serves to make everyone equally poor.

 

[wozencl]

So where do you get those figures from? The population of Greater London is a million more than here in Scotland but you say that Scotland holds more sway over British politics than the combined population of England and Wales. I disagree.

Do you remember the dark years of Thatcher? The Tory vote in Scotland was almost non-existent (and one year we returned no Tory MP's at all) yet we had to endure several anti-Scottish Tory governments.

The current constituency system benefits Labour. As an example the average Welsh constituency has 25,000 people less than the average English one. I am sure the situation is similar for constituencies in northern England, as compared to the south east, and Scotland.

 

[Hatter The Mad]

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double post

 

[FoxEye]

Anything but Labour. Their Digital Economy Bill can go forth and multiply.

 

[Hatter The Mad]

The current constituency system benefits Labour. As an example the average Welsh constituency has 25,000 people less than the average English one. I am sure the situation is similar for constituencies in northern England, as compared to the south east, and Scotland.

UK Polling Report has produced a calculator which has been normalised for typical voting distributions across constituencies, and gives averages.

Play with it - you will be shocked and sickened, and you will realise Labour still has not given us representation reform.

http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/swing-calculator

Labour Majority of 128
Conservative 30%
Labour 40%
Liberal Democrats 18%
Others 12%

Conservative Majority of 8
Conservative 40%
Labour 30%
Liberal Democrats 18%
Others 12%

Hung Parliament, Lib Dems 31 seats short
Conservative 30%
Labour 20%
Liberal Democrats 40%
Others 10%

Hung Parliament, Lib Dems 42 seats short
Conservative 20%
Labour 30%
Liberal Democrats 40%
Others 10%

 

[britboy4321]

Labour - If they have money in the coffers, they squander it on stupid endeavours that try to benefit everyone and ends up wasting money an benefits no one. They are also control freaks and want to govern every aspect of your lives

One of labour's endeavours - putting money into the NHS -- has directly increased the number of doctors at my local surgery. I benefitted by getting to see one quicker when I had an ingrowing toenail (no waiting list since labour got in). Therefore 'benefits no-one' is just a wrong statement.
Labour haven't tried to control what colour hat I'm wearing and also arn't interested in the airing time of match of the day. Therefore you 'they want to govern every aspect of your lives' is wrong.
On spending money on 'Arts for the blind' they were not trying to help 'non-blind' people - therefore this is an example of an endeavour that was not intended to benefit everyone.
I don't believe their increasing airport security after 9/11 was a 'stupid endeavour' either. This statement is -- yet again - simply wrong.

But apart from everything you wrote, the rest was right!

(ps. I'm amazing you are 33 as this sounds like the conversation an 18 year old will have with a 17 year old down t'pub to be honest. And you say you've researched! A real black and white attitude. I doubt anyone else on here would say everything labour has done .. EVERYTHING .. has been 100% totally wrong. Do you really think what you wrote? Seriously?)

 

[robgmun]

Oh so if it doesn't affect you directly right now that means there not control freaks? What rock have you've been under? You've seen the new internet bill have you? Or are you one of those "i've got nothing to hide” apologises?

And in terms of spending, Labour has done nothing that any other party would have done even better, Have you heard about the a little known IT project for the NHS that ****ed billions up the wall? No? Or Billions on ID cards? How quickly you've seem to have forgiven them about that. The two examples you gave are the smallest of small projects that barely register. Sounds like you need to do a bit more reading yourself instead of lambasting people who actually bothered to find out the facts! Maybe then you would learn a little more about the party you're defending. So no, i do not think i'm wrong, at all. So sorry, but what you have said has been 100% totally wrong

 

[Xelene]

After living through the nasty vicious horror and then the utter sleaze of the Tories last time there is no ****ing way i'll vote for them. I can't bring myself to vote for Nanny either. I'll be spoiling my vote.

 

[Amp34]

I would probably vote for either Conservatives or Lib Dems however it's pretty much a wasted vote in my constituency as "we" will almost certainly vote another Labour MP in...

 

[Rich43]

BNP the racist party beating ukip?!?!?

 

[Barks]

I cannot believe how many people, particularly on Facebook, loathe Cameron because he went to Eton. They need to grow up. I wonder if Gordon Brown would also be a "****" if he had been educated at Eton.

I do think the editor of The Sun on QT had a point about the working man thinking twice about the Conservatives not because of policy but because of their aristocracy, ties in banking etc. It's rather pathetic but unfortunately it's true.

 

[Naffa]

I cannot believe how many people, particularly on Facebook, loathe Cameron because he went to Eton. They need to grow up. I wonder if Gordon Brown would also be a "****" if he had been educated at Eton.

I do think the editor of The Sun on QT had a point about the working man thinking twice about the Conservatives not because of policy but because of their aristocracy, ties in banking etc. It's rather pathetic but unfortunately it's true.

It's not pathetic at all, the issue of class needs to be addressed. People can shake it off all they want, but how on earth can a man like David Cameron claim to be fighting for the working Brit? Doesn't that disgust you? No one in his shadow cabinet has any idea what that life is like. They've no sense of what it's like to be a member of the majority of the population. I loathe Cameron because of his arrogance and his ignorance, and it's disgraceful that he claims to be fighting in the corner of a lifestyle he has no concept of.

 

[JJKrista1]

Voting Labour as Keynes > Friedman.

 

[britboy4321]

Oh so if it doesn't affect you directly right now that means there not control freaks? What rock have you've been under? You've seen the new internet bill have you? Or are you one of those "i've got nothing to hide” apologises?

And in terms of spending, Labour has done nothing that any other party would have done even better, Have you heard about the a little known IT project for the NHS that ****ed billions up the wall? No? Or Billions on ID cards? How quickly you've seem to have forgiven them about that. The two examples you gave are the smallest of small projects that barely register. Sounds like you need to do a bit more reading yourself instead of lambasting people who actually bothered to find out the facts! Maybe then you would learn a little more about the party you're defending. So no, i do not think i'm wrong, at all. So sorry, but what you have said has been 100% totally wrong

But you said all of their endeavours benefit no-one. You now seem to be U-turning on what you said earlier, and suggesting that not ALL of their endeavours benefit no-one (as you agree that the 2 I mentioned benefited at least 1 person in this country). So -- please -- which is it going to be? Do ALL of their endeavours benefit no-one, or do some of their endeavours benefit some people? We're you wrong with your first post, or your second?

When you say Labour have done nothing that any other party wouldn't have done better .. Well -- 5 years ago -- all parties tried to win a 'general election'. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel that Labour did this better than 'EVERY OTHER PARTY'?!?! Or am I mistaken?

You stay in happy, angry land -- I'll stay down here on planet earth ..

ps. Hint -- just don't say crazy sentences - don't talk in extremes. Don't say 'Labour has caused 100% of global warming in the world as they are so awful (or whatever you're going to dream up next)', it just destroys your case. Instead say 'They haven't done as much as they could environmentally' and my retort becomes much more difficult. -- instead just say 'OK some of their endeavours were right, most were very wrong' and I'll have no-where to go! It's easy -- just don't say crazy mental stuff and expect not to be hammered!


(for everyone who wonders what he wrote which was daft .. -- here you go ...

Labour - If they have money in the coffers, they squander it on stupid endeavours that try to benefit everyone and ends up wasting money an benefits no one. They are also control freaks and want to govern every aspect of your lives

Conservatives - If they have extra in the coffers they plough it back into the populous via tax cuts. Helping people directly. They are also better (kinder to) economic immigrants and not the types that sponge of the state.

 

[weescott]

You can't say the NHS IT Project that went **** up (and it still in a legal wrangle) is a political issue. The real issue was what was expected in the contract that neither party can agree on. Both parties lost millions of pounds because of it.