Custom watercooled V1000 or Corair H50 it

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Hey

I'm thinking of getting a Corsair H50-1 but I already have a Switech Apogee and a very decent pump, my only concern is the lack of space in a V1000

I'm only wanting to cool the CPU so nothing major but not sure what would be the best option
 
If you go for the H50, will you regret it? I certainly would.

Must be space in the case for at least a thick 120, probably more. If you can fit a H50 you can fit apogee, pump and a thin 120 which will outperform the H50 and cost less (given you've already got most of it).
 
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Danm54 said:
I bought the H50, its a good bit of kit but im going for a custom loop now, the H50 isn't proper watercooling!

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Yeah i'm aware it's not full on watercooling

I've had a dable in the past


But wasn't sure if it was worth it just to cool the cpu for the cost, would be a shame to waste the Apogee GT and the pump though
 
JonJ678 said:
Must be space in the case for at least a thick 120, probably more. If you can fit a H50 you can fit apogee, pump and a thin 120 which will outperform the H50 and cost less (given you've already got most of it).
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I know we seem to have our sides on this but where have you seen the comparison of a slim single rad custom loop vs an H50?

In fact, any comparison of an H50 with any single rad.

I know the pump on the H50 (ok everything on the H50) gets slagged off on a regular basis by custom watercoolers but it is only powering a small loop, and does so competently aside from buzzing quietly.

On the rad and the fans, nothing wrong with the rad, fairly standard, has a built in reservoir of sorts. Fans are your own choice but the Corsair stock one is a higher performance one than most. Including the Akasa Apache. The reason I believe that is because Akasa make both and have the specs for both on their site so at least they're likely to lie about each to the same degree.

But that's just me thinking through in the ye olde way science was done before proof through demonstration was thought a good idea to go with claims, so I could be wrong as I'm not proving it.
 
Ye olde science, before recording observations, was philosophy. Something tells me you knew that, but I take your point. I'll be taking my loop apart in a week or so to fit a new fan, I don't have a thin 120 but may be able to extrapolate from a thick one. Aside from that, I've failed to find anyone online who thought a custom loop with a thin 120mm radiator was a good plan.

The D5 is better than the corsair pump. I don't need to see data on this, the D5 is the best laing have come up with and costs more than the entire H50. I'll be surprised if the corsair block is better than the apogee, though it might be. 30mm swiftec probably equivalent to the H50 rad. It seems likely that the custom approach will work better, but failing that I'll fall back on, in the OPs case, the custom loop costing less.

I still think you should use shrouds Hotwired :)
 
Wasn't strictly relevant, Hotwired has a H50 mounted in the top hard drive bay of an antec mini p180 with a fan either side. If he adds a 25mm shroud either side of the radiator he'll get better performance / less noise for a couple of dead fans, probably for the cost of postage from mm. More importantly (to me) it would fill the hard drive bay better.

I've suggested it previously, he's not as bothered by their absence as I am.
 
Either that or fan/shroud/rad/shroud/fan/shroud if it also fits neatly, spacing the fan away from the resistance of the front of the case would also be good though less important than spacing it away from the radiator.

Shrouds are good. Martin's testing showed fan+shroud getting the same performance improvement as push-pull fans without shrouds. Push pull with shrouds is ideal, push pull without shrouds seems a waste. If the space wasn't available I'd have no objection to their omission, but Hotwireds layout strikes me as so close to perfection that it bothers me that he wont finish it.
 
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Hmm reckon i'll try this with a single 120 rad then.. Any suggestions on which is better?

As i'm in a lain-li v1000 i'm considering mounting the rad out the back using the 120mm fan mounting as it's tight for space
 
Neither of us know of any reviews arguing for one over the other. A 120mm feser radiator outperformed a thermalright TRUE on my q9550 by around five degrees load. Most people recommend a 240mm radiator for cooling an i7, I think the idea is a 120mm matches air, 240 beats it conclusively.

You've picked an awkward case for water. Is the hard drive cage closest to the front removable? If so a thick 120mm radiator will fit there comfortably (based on photos), possibly two of them stacked. I can offer fairly accurate load/idle delta temps for two 120mm radiators stacked with one fan inbetween on an i7 if this would help.
 
The hard drive case is already removed as I had this case when running phase so that's not a problem

I was planning on mounting the pump down there also so that might be a push for space but if not then maybe a 240mm rad in the bottom
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I can't see space for a 240 anywhere aside from the optical bays, where do you have in mind? Two 120mm radiators would do you nicely though, and be much easier to fit.

Curious about why you've left phase. Noise, hassle, other?

I like the back to front airflow design.
 
Yeah noise mainly but wish i'd kept it looking back

How would you mount two 120mm rads then as I had a measure up and it'd be very tight on the bottom shelf for a 240mm unless i got a bracket which extends the psu further out towards the back of the case
 
^That would make me very happy Hotwired :)

I'd mount them in this sort of fashion, below the optical drives at the front of the case. It'll work better with thermochills as they don't have such a large tank at the top of the radiator. You'd need to make some fairly careful measurements before buying the radiators, if you've got half a dozen or so 120mm fans lying around, screw them to each other as a fair representation of the space the radiators take up.

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Noise sounds about right, sorry to hear of your regret. I don't understand refrigeration enough to want to use it myself, but I daresay I'll change my mind at some point.
 
How about 2 x 120 rads but using one down at the front where a fan is positioned and one at the back where the other fan is but run the in a loop instead of being mounted together, think that's work? Only concern is i'd have to use one as an exhaust i'd think unless i cut a large hole in the top of the v1000 and put a large fan there as an outlet
 
Would 2 x 120.1 rads be a worth while upgrade from air if just cooling a cpu? As not sure I can be bothered modding the case to fit a 120.2 or bigger...

I'll use one at the front as an inlet and the one at the back as an exhaust, probably using the exhaust rad directly after the cpu to slightly cool the water before flowing through the inlet rad, if you get me?

Any ideas and opinions appreciated
 
A thick 120.1 radiator will beat air cooling, but not by much. Two thick 120.1 radiators will perform almost identically to a 120.2 radiator, and a thick 120.2 with decent fans works very well on the x58 i7 which I think is about as hot as chips get at present.

Loop order doesn't matter though, water doesn't go through a radiator and cool down then through a cpu block and warm up again (well, not by more than 1/4 of a degree or so). The entire loop tends to sit at the same temperature, as the pumps used maintain a high enough rate of flow for this to be the case.

I've stacked them partly because they fit better in my case that way, and partly because when I asked on here people thought it was an odd idea. It works rather well, so I'm pleased. Perhaps buy two 120.1 radiators and see if you can fit them both in the front, if you can then you have the option to get a third and mount it over the exhaust as well.
 
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