Poll: Now!!! Be honest can you tell the difference? 120hz vs 60hz

Can you really tell a difference between 60Hz and 120Hz?

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lol at that video

first reply says what I was going to say.

My biggest gripe from when going from CRT to TFT was the drop in fps

My old sceen was 100hz, going to 60hz made a big difference



I can't wait until I can afford a decent 120hz screen.
 
groen said:
isn't the 120hz not a full 120hz. didn't they use some technology to increase refresh rate like this http://sharp-world.com/kameyama/tech/ds_lcd/index.html

i think the system inserts more frames based on the current frames

my two lcd screens run at 75hz, well it says so in the graphic options, samsung 940bw and a dell e173fp
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Nah, these new ones are genuine 120hz finally and are massively better than the old "inserting black frames" crappy ones.
 
I know they have to be two diffrent monitors but thats unfair to judge them going by that youtube video :( i have had a 2 24inch monitor, 5Ms, 10,000con etc both running the same next too each other (ones samsung and one is LG) they are EXACTLY the same! .. but the LG is awful for playing games -_- it blurs, the color is awful. the reason i got the two monitors is because they were exactly the same down to the last detail (they didnt make my samsung monitor any more :'( ) But i think you CAN notice a diffrence.. but only slightly! Mostly watching blue rays :)
 
fortunately for those that have spent money on the 120hz monitors, the difference is more than what that youtube video shows.
 
great test very accurate.

ill take a sound test of an ipod and a 1980s walkman using a microphone to record the sound from each device.

i bet you cant tell the difference either :rolleyes:
 
Would I be right in saying that the only difference is that if V-sync is enabled (and providing that you have the right hardware) that it will be 120fps rather than 60fps if the same was set up?

And anyway the 60hz one on the right has a bias anyway - it looks crap
 
Culinia said:
Would I be right in saying that the only difference is that if V-sync is enabled
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Nope
smoother
more responsive
more action to be seen.


just look at a 120hz crt then at a 60hz tft and you will see what i mean.
probably not on the same level but the closest you can get atm.
 
only cameras can notice the difference thats why thay had to freeze it every time. Its pointless tbh, unless its for 3d
 
Temi_D said:
only cameras can notice the difference thats why thay had to freeze it every time. Its pointless tbh, unless its for 3d
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if there was no difference between 60hz and 120hz then we wouldnt have so many hardcore gamers clinging on to their old crt's.
 
Temi_D said:
only cameras can notice the difference thats why thay had to freeze it every time. Its pointless tbh, unless its for 3d
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No, a camera will likely be recording at 24fps, or 24 Hz, so the only time you'll see the difference captured on a far lower hz camera, is when paused, which flat out proves the ghosting is less bad.

Unless they recorded with a camera running at 120hz, and you played it back on a screen playing 120hz with the video still encoded to be 120hz, then the video can't show 120hz, nor 60hz, so its completely pointless.

The fact you CAN see a difference when the video is a ludicrous comparison method realistically just highlights how huge the difference might be in the real world when you can see it in a full 120hz.
 
Amnesia said:
if there was no difference between 60hz and 120hz then we wouldnt have so many hardcore gamers clinging on to their old crt's.
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To be fair, the difference is night and day between 120hz vs 60hz on a CRT, and on an LCD and shouldn't realistically be mentioned.

CRT's flash the image on screen, at 60hz its very flickery and can induce headaches, eye strain and be generally awful. At 120hz the "flickering" is up to a level your eyes can't perceive it so the eye strain and so on is reduced significantly. There isn't ghosting on a 60hz crt, however the increased framerate helps.

On LCD's they don't flicker, they don't induce headaches and moving to 120hz really barely changes that at all. Ghosting is something thats present on a LCD though, and the increased framerate largely increases the responsiveness of the panel.

With overdrive response and the like you have screens trying to compensate for ghosting, however on a 60hz screen this doesn't always give it time to where its going before the next frame goes up on screen, the 120hz gives it 60 extra frames in which to "compensate" for ghosting. If you look on one of the better uk tft review sites they highlight the difference between 60 and 120hz mode, which is largely down to lack of ghosting AND lack of overdrive response overcompensation, which finally helps bring us towards "almost" ghost free LCD's. Then on top of that the 120hz situation helps with tearing a heck of a lot and many other issues.

The last big improvement is simply the ability to show 120 different frames on screen IF you have a system capable of providing 120hz in games, which is actually one of the smallest improvements of a 120hz screen.
 
I'm still a little unsure about the tech and believe that it will need a little more time to mature. When it does, I will jump on the bad wagon.
 
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