Poll: Which party will get your vote in the General Election?

[RDM]

People tend to forget that it's thanks to Fabianism and social democracy (socialism) that our NHS exists. A product of the left wing which even Lady Thatcher dared to touch.

Yes, it is unfortunate that this sacred cow exists. Pretty much electoral suicide to suggest NHS reform which means we will never get anything better.

Even with all of the blunder and incompetence, there's always one thing that will keep me voting for Labour (as far as I can see), and that thing is David Cameron. How anybody could want him as our leader is beyond me....

Because despite his failings many people think he would still do a better job than Gordon Brown? Is it really that hard to realise that people could have a different view from you? For example not so tied up in David Cameron's background? I couldn't care less what school he went to, it isn't like Brown had even a remotely similar upbringing to me, so why should Cameron's upbringing matter?

 

[robgmun]

I am utterly amazed at the complete failure of some to understand basic economics and efficiency shown in this thread, it is truly terrifying. At least is shows Labour are not alone though...

I would have to agree with you, my faith in the intelligence of the individual person has been shaken somewhat.

 

[dirtydog]

I lost faith in that many years ago.

 

[Von Smallhausen]

The Tory Party: defending the rich and attacking the poor since 1678.

You could counter argue that New Labour have been shafting the rich and the poor since 1997.

The gap between rich and poor has never been wider.

 

[Mucky_Pup]

When it's easier than ever to be on long term unemployment benefits, and earn the equivalent of working a job, I think labour has done a good job looking after the "poor".

 

[Naffa]

Because despite his failings many people think he would still do a better job than Gordon Brown? Is it really that hard to realise that people could have a different view from you? For example not so tied up in David Cameron's background? I couldn't care less what school he went to, it isn't like Brown had even a remotely similar upbringing to me, so why should Cameron's upbringing matter?

Of course I can appreciate that people have a different view to me, that's not my point. All I was saying is that there's no reason that I would want to have Cameron as our PM over Brown. As for the whole class battle, I think it is an important issue that needs to be seriously addressed, and it's one of ignorance. How can you believe all of this nonsense about Cameron sticking up for the working class and being the party of working Britain, given his upbringing, his trust fund and how much money he has on the way? He's never had to do a days work in his life, how dare he suggest he even has the slightest sense of what that life is like.

Another worrying thing is Osborne, who has no other experience other than working for the Conservative party since he was 23, cannot seem to grasp elementary economics and just seems again, to be too naive. He keeps saying he's going to cut spending as soon as possible, regardless of whether we're growing or not, tax cuts to the richest in the country, tax breaks for married couples, "We hate the 50% tax band, but we're going to keep it"... Absolute nonsense. That paired with David Cameron's only experience in government being adviser to Norman Lamont on Black Wednesday.

 

[Von Smallhausen]

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[dirtydog]

Of course I can appreciate that people have a different view to me, that's not my point. All I was saying is that there's no reason that I would want to have Cameron as our PM over Brown. As for the whole class battle, I think it is an important issue that needs to be seriously addressed, and it's one of ignorance. How can you believe all of this nonsense about Cameron sticking up for the working class and being the party of working Britain, given his upbringing, his trust fund and how much money he has on the way? He's never had to do a days work in his life, how dare he suggest he even has the slightest sense of what that life is like.

Another worrying thing is Osborne, who has no other experience other than working for the Conservative party since he was 23, cannot seem to grasp elementary economics and just seems again, to be too naive. He keeps saying he's going to cut spending as soon as possible, regardless of whether we're growing or not, tax cuts to the richest in the country, tax breaks for married couples, "We hate the 50% tax band, but we're going to keep it"... Absolute nonsense. That paired with David Cameron's only experience in government being adviser to Norman Lamont on Black Wednesday.

Doesn't exactly fill one with confidence does it

 

[Tefal]

Doesn't exactly fill one with confidence does it

What's Nick griffins work experience again?

 

[RDM]

Of course I can appreciate that people have a different view to me, that's not my point. All I was saying is that there's no reason that I would want to have Cameron as our PM over Brown. As for the whole class battle, I think it is an important issue that needs to be seriously addressed, and it's one of ignorance. How can you believe all of this nonsense about Cameron sticking up for the working class and being the party of working Britain, given his upbringing, his trust fund and how much money he has on the way? He's never had to do a days work in his life, how dare he suggest he even has the slightest sense of what that life is like.

And yet Brown was a lecturer in Politics, 3 years as a journalist and has spent the rest of his time as a politician. Exactly how does that give you an insight into the life of the "common man"?

Another worrying thing is Osborne, who has no other experience other than working for the Conservative party since he was 23, cannot seem to grasp elementary economics and just seems again, to be too naive. He keeps saying he's going to cut spending as soon as possible, regardless of whether we're growing or not, tax cuts to the richest in the country, tax breaks for married couples, "We hate the 50% tax band, but we're going to keep it"... Absolute nonsense. That paired with David Cameron's only experience in government being adviser to Norman Lamont on Black Wednesday.

Compare that with Brown, who increased the deficit during boom years. Increased it while we were doing well. Exactly how is that good economic management? I certainly don't blame him for the financial crisis but I do blame him for the state the UK was in when it hit. If a more fiscally responsible government had been in place prior to the crisis and had decreased the deficit during the boom years then we wouldn't be in the mess we are now. And the less said about the UK Gold reserves sale the better...

At the moment I would rather have someone that "could be" economically incompetent than someone that has proven to be economically incompetent.

 

[dirtydog]

What's Nick griffins work experience again?

I doubt he will be running the country come May

At least the BNP has policies based on reality - what is the Labour or Tory policy on peak oil for example? They don't have one. Well they do, the policy is to pretend we can keep growing and ignore the elephant in the room of population growth, energy demand rising and production falling. The BNP has policies on all of these critical issues facing our civilisation.

 

[PapaLazaru]

65 votes for the BNP?

This Country............

 

[RDM]

What's Nick griffins work experience again?

Private school, Cambridge, Career in far right politics, small break while supported by mummy and daddy. More political career. So absolutely a spokesman for the common man.

 

[dirtydog]

65 votes for the BNP?

This Country............

This country has been sold out and ruined by LibLabCon, maybe you should be rolling your eyes at those parties instead.

 

[Naffa]

And yet Brown was a lecturer in Politics, 3 years as a journalist and has spent the rest of his time as a politician. Exactly how does that give you an insight into the life of the "common man"?

Well, the thing I always come back to is the fact he'd be blind if it wasn't for the NHS. His father was a minister for the church and his grandfather was a timber merchant, a fairly normal standard of living like the majority of the UK.

Compare that with Brown, who increased the deficit during boom years. Increased it while we were doing well. Exactly how is that good economic management? I certainly don't blame him for the financial crisis but I do blame him for the state the UK was in when it hit. If a more fiscally responsible government had been in place prior to the crisis and had decreased the deficit during the boom years then we wouldn't be in the mess we are now. And the less said about the UK Gold reserves sale the better...

Absolutely, the absolute biggest failing of this government is that we weren't set up to ride the recession, I couldn't agree more (sorry, I didn't mean to put words in your mouth, in that you thought it was the biggest failing, we can agree that it was a big fail though ). Do correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the deficit was only increased relative to our increase in GDP? I'm not sure about that, but I'm fairly certain I've read it from a reliable source. The sale of the gold doesn't need any further discussion, ridiculous is the word of the day.

 

[Von Smallhausen]

There are plenty of Labour MPs from privileged backgrounds who have sat on the frontbench. Are they ever mocked ?

 

[robgmun]

Absolutely, the absolute biggest failing of this government is that we weren't set up to ride the recession, I couldn't agree more. Do correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the deficit was only increased relative to our increase in GDP? I'm not sure about that, but I'm fairly certain I've read it from a reliable source. The sale of the gold doesn't need any further discussion, ridiculous is the word of the day.

So do you agree that the Labour government completely failed us in this recession?

 

[PapaLazaru]

This country has been sold out and ruined by LibLabCon, maybe you should be rolling your eyes at those parties instead.

So your answer is the BNP?

They would wreck this country make no mistake.

 

[Naffa]

There are plenty of Labour MPs from privileged backgrounds who have sat on the frontbench. Are they ever mocked ?

I can't say what the norm is, but the likes of Peter Mandelson and Shaun Woodward are mocked by yours truly occasionally... Even though Mandelson isn't an MP....

So do you agree that the Labour government completely failed us in this recession?

Not at all, if we'd adopted Conservative policy we'd now be in a depression, and that still could happen if they introduced their spending cuts before we're in a reasonable state of growth. All of the forward spending, and the fiscal stimulus package was necessary or we would be absolutely fudged, again, something esteemed economists agree on.

 

[Hatter The Mad]

EDIT: I just re-read your question, are you referring specifically to leadership, ie Cameron vs Brown? Or the parties as a whole, ie Labour vs Conservatives?

This, because you specifically said:

and that thing is David Cameron