+1 By and large the reason I won't donate to many a charity, although it's mainly not due to money being used for things like natural disasters occuring every now and then, but mostly for sending annual aid to countries like India, etc. space program, and nuclear weapons, but still need aid from us?
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+1 By and large the reason I won't donate to many a charity, although it's mainly not due to money being used for things like natural disasters occuring every now and then, but mostly for sending annual aid to countries like India, etc. space program, and nuclear weapons, but still need aid from us?
I don't think it's a lack of humanity at all. It's simply that we DON'T have money to give away. Our own people badly need it, such as those in Afghanistan being killed because there's not enough money in the pot for enough equipment. If we had lots of money to go around by all means, send it to Haiti. But this is money we just do not have and need it to look after our own population.
As for Nick Griffin, he seems to be making less and less extreme comments. I don't think his core values have changed - he simply wants more votes.
The money donated can possibly help thousands of people, save lives, and it's needed right now. Our problems are smaller and less immediate, with few spelling life or death. Perhaps giving troops decent kit should be up there, though it's not as important as the needs of those in Haiti, but my views on the war are not worth going into now. Also, the amount we're donating is tiny in comparison to the cost of the war and can do so much more.
The government doesn't spend much as it doesn't earn enough. Running the country is pricey, but nobody wants a tax increase, so stuff has to be cut unfortunately. You cannot please everyone all of the time. Would support a massive tax hike so we can put enough money where you think it should go?
Pretty much my point.
I'd hardly call 50,000 old age pensioners due to die because they can't pay their heating bills on the meager sum of money the government gives them a small amount of life or death cases.
Let's be clear about one thing; the 50,000 deaths figure is the number of excess deaths in the elderly population as compared to a non-winter period, not "the number of elderly who will die because they cannot pay their heating bills".
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maybe the government should have said that we cant afford to give haiti any cash but we will pull our troops out of afghanistan and send them over to haiti to help.
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It can do the same here, £20,000,000 / £400 (Current maximum winter fuel payment available) = 50,000.
Yes it is, more so in my eyes.
Based on? I doubt 50,000 people are going to die because they can't afford their heating bill. I think 50,000 OAPs may die whom may have struggled with their heating bills, but I'm sure very few die because of that reason. It's political rhetoric spouted by a known liar, it's not a valid base for an argument. I can't be alone in this conception.
Why did no one give a stuff about Haiti til now. They have been living in poverty for years. If you go there the place is full of beggars and the kids are wandering the streets chasing buses naked.
The americans that visit regularly take an extra case of pens, pencils, paper etc for the schools. One American told me they took crayola into a school and the kids peeled the wrappers off and started eating them.
The americans that visit regularly take an extra case of pens, pencils, paper etc for the schools. One American told me they took crayola into a school and the kids peeled the wrappers off and started eating them.
What this man says.
Put it a bit more humanly than myself.
Government needs to set its priorities.
BS, see above.
Not in mine I'm afraid. Yes, they're our own people, but how many lives would £20 m save there? Less than the needs of Haiti I'm sure. A better decision would be to bring our troops home and stop wasting time poking our noses into a war we didn't even start or should be involved in. There, that saves their lives and costs billions less every year.
I'd say helping fellow human beings when they're in dire need is a pretty big priority.
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Not.......our.......problem.
I wish we could save the world, I really do, but as a Brit who works full time and therefore pays taxes, I want the money I worked for to go on British people.
People always die, if its not genocide we have to concern ourselves with the natural disasters that happen all over the globe regardless?
We have no money to give! I do not mean refuse to send rescue teams and RN naval support, but to donate money we simply do not have...
I am not saying do not have public appeals either, but public expenditure should not be spent this way.
What would happen if there were earthquakes and other disasters everywhere in a close period of time? Pledge.. everything?
At what point did the UK become rescuers of the world? This serves no purpose other than politicians being able to showboat..
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tbh based on the views of some of public i think it might backfire on them
Doesn't sound like you want to save the world at all.
What's with all the outdated, selfish and narrow minded patriotism in this thread?
I hope one day you're in desperate need of help, and that someone gives you the help you need to get by. Then you might understand why.
£20mil is a bit silly to be sending over really. Where will that money go really?
They would be a lot better off if we just sent food, people to clear out the destruction/dead bodies, tents/some kind of accommodation & medicine.
Now I'm not a person who thinks they shouldn't get any help at all but I feel they would be a lot better off if we didn't just throw money at it.
They would be a lot better off if we just sent food, people to clear out the destruction/dead bodies, tents/some kind of accommodation & medicine.
Now I'm not a person who thinks they shouldn't get any help at all but I feel they would be a lot better off if we didn't just throw money at it.