What do you think of my build ? £1300

Really ? So It won't benefit me in booting up speed, gaming or multi-tasking?


Booting up speed and speed of opening up apps n games etc

Im not saying it wont be fast at these, as it will! Its just the i5 and amd chips will do everything you want just as well and for a decent length of time! Basically you won't unleash the full potential of the i7 so whats the point in paying extra for something you probably wont use!
 
Really ? So It won't benefit me in booting up speed, gaming or multi-tasking?


Booting up speed and speed of opening up apps n games etc

it's not gonna shave massive amounts off times they can be handy for certain tasks. I think you should take a good read about ssd's i personally don't feel the need for them in the market at the price they are at (ridiculously exspensive)
 
Hello 0neAnd0nly,

Do you really have £1300 pound to spend on a computer tower or are you kinda daydreaming and learning how to spec up a Super-Tower?

I say that because the system in your first post is outrageously expensive ££££ :eek:

You could build a *stunning* system based around AMD hardware for half that amount, probably even less and from the sounds of it I don't think you would be able to tell the difference. . .

Please read this thread when you have some spare time and you will get an idea what I am talking about: 4p

The Intel® Core™ i7 is a *specialist* piece of equipment for Scientists, Multi-media professionals and benchmarkers trying to break 3D-Mark world records and is really not suited to your general PC enthusiast.

You will see a lot of people talking about and wanting a Core™ i7 but I would say 90% of these people do not really understand the hardware and are just copying someone else . . . I don't mean that in a disrespectful way but a lot of people are not doing their homework/research and are happy to let others do their thinking for them . . . never a good idea! :D

I can offer you a small tip about PC hardware and that is when you speccing start with a budget you are *easiliy* able to afford and are comfortable with and beyond that point don't spend 1p extra unless you totally understand what the Benefits the premium will bring you . . . you need to understand what your spending your money on right . . .

The PC hardware scene is full of numbers and people just seem to spend more money on getting higher numbers when they don't really know what these numbers mean i.e: Buy that processor it has 6mb cache, 2mb is no good . . . . what they are actually saying is 6 is better than 2 so you must spend extra £££ to have the 6 :p

It's all nonsense for the most part. Even value PC hardware these days is incredibly powerful for most peoples needs but the numbers games will never cease . . . i.e who really cares if a car can drive at 200MPH or 400MPH if your never gonna be able to drive it faster than 80MPH.

Ultimately the most important thing is . . . .what you do with your computer? . . it's a tool, do not fall into the ePeen catagory where you spend more just to impress others and talk about your expensive hardware, instead get the best equipment you can comfortably afford and then get on with it and enjoy yourself! :)

Good luck and try to keep some money for a rainly day, it seems a lot of people in the UK are getting quite poor so it's always good to have enough money for the simple things like food and rent hehe!

Peace! :cool:

What an awesome Post, I have got the money but didn't want to waste any. I thought get an i7 to keep up with the times so I can go a good few years and happily play most of the games and be happy waiting 15-20 secs for my pc to start.

I don't want to over do it, I'm glad you've told me. Would you recommend an i5 build atleast ? haven't used amd in the last couple of years . . . :)
 
If your mainly concerned about playing games then get phenom II 955! Most benchmarks show them to be equal or faster than an i7 at gaming and theyre only 120 quid on overclockers site! The mobos are a lot cheaper too!

check this
Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P (Socket AM3) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard
 
If your mainly concerned about playing games then get phenom II 955! Most benchmarks show them to be equal or faster than an i7 at gaming and theyre only 120 quid on overclockers site! The mobos are a lot cheaper too!

check this
Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P (Socket AM3) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard

Its pretty weird trying to get AMD in my mind, everything has been intel the last couple of years, It will be hard to consider the change lol

So i5 is relly not worth it, at all ? :( haha
 
Its pretty weird trying to get AMD in my mind, everything has been intel the last couple of years, It will be hard to consider the change lol

So i5 is relly not worth it, at all ? :( haha

Nah - i5 is worth it, but most people seem to agree that its more of a CPU for things other than gaming, but its great for gaming too! If you want the computer mainly for gaming then AMD phenom II 955 is what i'd pick! Both i5 or Phenom II will more than suit your requirements though. Im running an e6600 and it runs all my games at good resolutions with very playable frame rates (4890 gpu). Saying that, I've just upgraded to a phenom II - should be coming tuesday :D :D :D

I know what you mean! I sort of go through stages of being really into comps and then not for abit! My last build was when the e6600's were the main chips. I wouldn't have considered going for an AMD chip, mainly because they werent as good! But now im upgrading again I've done my research and found that the phenoms are v decent!
 
What an awesome Post)
That's very kind thank you! :)

I have got the money but didn't want to waste any. I thought get an i7 to keep up with the times so I can go a good few years and happily play most of the games and be happy waiting 15-20 secs for my pc to start

If you read that link in my previous post you will see that Core i7 is not suitable for you. There are genuine reasons to pay the huge premiums for the i7 but it appears you do not fall into that catagory

I don't want to over do it, I'm glad you've told me. Would you recommend an i5 build atleast ? haven't used amd in the last couple of years . . . :)
No I would not recommend Core i5 in any form or shape. Anyone In-The-Know will never recommend a Core i5 to anyone (and to some extent the same applies to or Core i7). The only solution from Intel for you and most other non-power-users (i,e gamers) is the Core i3 . . . the most cost effective solution from AMD at this time is Athlon II . . . If anyone has a problem with this suggestion please do not attack me but instead ask a question or give me an example and I will be happy to demonstrate/prove my point.

I just want to help people buy the right hardware and I'm here more for those with limited funds than those with excessive funds i.e I got more time for people wanting a £600 computer than those wanting a £1200 computer . . . my time is precious also so I can ony afford to help people that really need it! :D

I'm all for retail therapy and I'm not here to tell you how you should spend your money etc but I know how to build a fast computer with limited funds and I hate to see people throwing away hundreds of pounds ££££ needlessly.

2010 is all about Bang-For-Buck IMHO! :cool:
 
I really need to order soon,

benefits of Intel Core i5 750 2.66Ghz

befits of AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 965

Both are around £140, what is better ?

I want fast booting, encoding during video streaming, great with multi-tasking as I've always got plenty of apps on the go and plenty of gaming.
 
That's very kind thank you! :)



If you read that link in my previous post you will see that Core i7 is not suitable for you. There are genuine reasons to pay the huge premiums for the i7 but it appears you do not fall into that catagory

No I would not recommend Core i5 in any form or shape. Anyone In-The-Know will never recommend a Core i5 to anyone (and to some extent the same applies to or Core i7). The only solution from Intel for you and most other non-power-users (i,e gamers) is the Core i3 . . . the most cost effective solution from AMD at this time is Athlon II . . . If anyone has a problem with this suggestion please do not attack me but instead ask a question or give me an example and I will be happy to demonstrate/prove my point.

I just want to help people buy the right hardware and I'm here more for those with limited funds than those with excessive funds i.e I got more time for people wanting a £600 computer than those wanting a £1200 computer . . . my time is precious also so I can ony afford to help people that really need it! :D

I'm all for retail therapy and I'm not here to tell you how you should spend your money etc but I know how to build a fast computer with limited funds and I hate to see people throwing away hundreds of pounds ££££ needlessly.

2010 is all about Bang-For-Buck IMHO! :cool:

Aright. So what you mean when you say, Power Users?

I really need to order soon,

benefits of Intel Core i5 750 2.66Ghz

befits of AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 965

Both are around £140, why is AMD better ?

I want fast booting, encoding during video streaming, great with multi-tasking as I've always got plenty of apps on the go, plenty of gaming and stability.

I'll aim around £600-800, I like building things to last but even more about saving money atm. Starting to feel the effects of the recession haha
 
Aright. So what you mean when you say, Power Users?
A power user is a user of a personal computer who can use advanced features of programs which are beyond the abilities of "normal" users . . . more info here

benefits of Intel Core i5 750 2.66Ghz
It's a fast quad-core that overclocks quite well once you spend a week or two learning . . . it's too expensive for what it offers, Intel-Fanboy gamer/overclocker now wants the cheaper Intel® Core™ i3

befits of AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 965
It's a fast quad-core that overclocks quite well once you spend a week learning . . . a more overclocking friendly processor for the nOObzilla! it's too expensive for what it offers, AMD-Fanboy gamer/overclocker now wants the cheaper AMD® Athlon™ II

Both are around £140, why is AMD better
Intel® Core™ i5 for the Intel® Fanboy and AMD® Phenom™II for the AMD® Fanboy . . . I wouldn't buy either myself or recommend them to others . . . especially to a High-Def Gamer (1920x1200)

Please read this thread when you have time: 4p

I want fast booting, encoding during video streaming, great with multi-tasking as I've always got plenty of apps on the go, plenty of gaming and stability
If you really want to splurge some money on something very new and very special then an SSD is a big deal, I have wanted one myself for years but I'm not gonna pay that ridiculous price for a matchbox sized storage device, I'm waiting patiently . . . The price point that will be acceptable to me personally is £100 for a 80GB whiz-bang SSD . . . I'm still waiting! :D

The next question I've got for you is whats the most powerful computer you've ever used? . . . what you using now?

I'll aim around £600-800, I like building things to last but even more about saving money atm. Starting to feel the effects of the recession haha

Have a look at this spec, it just needs a Hard-Disk or an SSD+Hard-Disk combo . . . there are some new graphics cards coming in a few weeks but for the moment the HD 5770 Vapor-X is a very reasonably priced unit and if it doesn't knock your socks off you can plug in a second! :eek:

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Please observe the power requirements! . . . you don't need a *monster* PSU


I've got an AMD® Athlon™ II 425 in my main workstation/gaming machine which is a triple-core compared to the quad core in the spec above, here it is at stock:

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That deals with anything I can throw at it, handles games great even at stock 2700MHz (X3) . . . however I am an overclocker and am addicted to increasing the speed of things so heres where I'm at so far . . .



That's a £55 pound triple-core processor, it is good, very good! :cool:
 
ATM I've got,

Dual Intel Dual Core E2160 @ 2.8GHZ
Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L Mobo
OCZ DDR2 PC2-6400 Vista Performance Gold Edition 4GB
Asus NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT (512 MB)
500W OCZ PSU

its starting to struggle on a few quad core games and I'm not happy with start up times and streaming/encoding ability when I'm streaming films to PS3.

So why isn't the high spec ADM not worth it, will it last longer or be more stable ? Also will i see better performance using multiple apps or extracting downloaded files ?

Sorry for being a pain in the arse, just want to be a 100% sure before my buy, also when do you think is the best time for a new build. With the recession, proces are steep atm, should I wait until the new amd and i9s come out, so others will come down ?

Also what are the temps on your build, getting a lot of power out of them haha

I might go raid0 instead of SSD anyway, was only getting it on PROMO
 
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Sorry mate it's all kicking off! ;)

I don't see any problems dude . . . you wanna find out quickly from someone when these new Radeons are coming out . . . if they hit the shelves in two weeks what you gonna do?

I wish I could have an SSD . . . RAID-0 is nice sometimes, its something you have to try anyway to make your own mind up!

I'd say go for it *or* if your not sure about something then do your homework to become more sure (if that makes sense?) :D

P.S: go back to your last post and delete that *HUGE* quote haha!
 
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