Forgot how rubbish Paypal was:

There is nothing wrong with PayPal or eBay.

Provided your not stupid and stick to all the policies, I have been buying & selling for years and never had a single complaint.
 
Oh yet another Paypal rant.
Out of the many hundreds of thousands of Paypal transactions that take place each week a handful are problematic - yer, that shows they suck.

I've never had a single Paypal problem ever and I've been using them a long time.

You don't have any issues with EBay either, so long as you:
A. Stick to all their rules
B. Always make sure you send anything of any value using a trackable service
C. Don't use the mobile phone section
D. Don't use the software section

Stick to those simple rules and everything will be fine.
 
There is nothing wrong with PayPal or eBay.

Provided your not stupid and stick to all the policies, I have been buying & selling for years and never had a single complaint.

Yet... give them time :D
 
http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2009/01/09/paypal-screws-sellers-by-holding-payments.aspx

Looks like ebay and paypal going down, they truly do suck, especially paypal.

Now i'm scared of selling my phone, the payment he made is "Under Review", i bloody hope he doesn't claim he doesn't recieve the phone or something :s

1. That is over a year old.
2. He recieved the funds from his mobile phone fine (did you even read your own link?)
3. The funds were held for 3 weeks as buyer protection. It wasn't held permanently.
 
I don't like using paypal either due to being stung as a seller a couple of years ago. I didn't send the item as the address and name didn't match the username and the next day it turned out the paypal account used had been stolen. It turned out that I had to pay so that the poor person who's account it was could get their money back and I lost the sale. Brilliant, thanks. I don't sell stuff on ebay anymore.
 
stoofa said “Stick to those simple rules and everything will be fine.”
Your having a laugh right? I am having no end of problems with ebay. One of which is my account is unable to log in from any computer using IE. But firefox works.
 
stoofa said “Stick to those simple rules and everything will be fine.”
Your having a laugh right? I am having no end of problems with ebay. One of which is my account is unable to log in from any computer using IE. But firefox works.

Well as I can log into my Ebay account with machines running IE7 and IE8 I doubt very much if the problem you are experiencing is an EBay one.
 
stoofa said “Stick to those simple rules and everything will be fine.”
Your having a laugh right? I am having no end of problems with ebay. One of which is my account is unable to log in from any computer using IE. But firefox works.

Have you installed paypal?
 
3. The funds were held for 3 weeks as buyer protection. It wasn't held permanently.

Why the hell should funds be held for 3 weeks as buyer protection?
As far as I'm concerned, I will not send an item until all payments have cleared (be that a bank transfer, or a paypal payment) ... to me held funds means that payment has not cleared yet
 
I would only ever use them if I was buying things from Ebay/Steam.

Though if I was a seller I wouldn't touch ebay or Paypal. I prefer Gumtree.

I've had a few instances where I sold something on Ebay and followed their rules only to be stung by a chargeback and when I refused to cover the charges they just got a debt collector out! :mad:
 
I've had a few instances where I sold something on Ebay and followed their rules only to be stung by a chargeback and when I refused to cover the charges they just got a debt collector out! :mad:

Fnacy eloborating on that at all?
Becuase I read this as:

1. You put something up for sale, it sold.
2. You took payment for the item via PayPal.
3. You checked before sending that the address was a verified address.
4. You sent the item via a trackable (not just recorded) delivery service.
5. Buyer initiated a chargeback (reason?)
6. Paypal just refunded the money

In all of my years of using Paypal I've never seen anything like that.
It simply isn't possible as your posting via trackable service to a verified address means your transaction is protected.
You cannot possibly lose out in this situation.
 
Oh yet another Paypal rant.
Out of the many hundreds of thousands of Paypal transactions that take place each week a handful are problematic - yer, that shows they suck.

I've never had a single Paypal problem ever and I've been using them a long time.

You don't have any issues with EBay either, so long as you:
A. Stick to all their rules
B. Always make sure you send anything of any value using a trackable service
C. Don't use the mobile phone section
D. Don't use the software section

Stick to those simple rules and everything will be fine.

What about hijacked accounts? Paypal take the money back out of your account and the £450 laptop you just sent is in the hands of a theif. Will everything be fine then? And don't tell me "just claim on the insurance" because if this hasn't happened to you then you don't know what you are talking about.

I reckon stoofa works for paypal, he always defends them in these threads. :D

edit: and yes I still use paypal!
 
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