Going up the gym and hit a wall losing weight??

MeEsH BaKkA

MeEsH BaKkA

MeEsH BaKkA

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Hi guys, I have been up the gym 3 times a week for the last month and in the first two weeks lost a stone 17.9 to 16.9 last week I stayed the same but this week I'm up to 17.2 and I'm not sure why.

I do 30 mins of intense cardio usualy around 4km on tread mill or equiv on cross trainer, I have changed my diet significantly when I started gym and have stuck to it, eating healthy lots of water etc.. The same diet pretty much as when I used to train and was in very good shape. I am doing a lot of weight training as well ( 3 day split legs and shoulders, back and bi's, chest and tri's) and have started protine shake and creatine supps mid last week, could the weight gain be from water retention from the creatine and posibly put a bit if muscle on? Tho it's hard to judge muscle due to body fat my sholder and back seem a bit bigger?? Thanks for any info guys :)
 
could the weight gain be from water retention from the creatine and posibly put a bit if muscle on?
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thats a fair guess. increase your rep range if you are too worried about the gain.
 
Likely to be water retention from creatine if your diet / training is good. Try to judge from pictures rather than the scales, although this may be a bit harder at high body fats.
 
Will be easier to make a diagnosis if you post up your routine and diet. My guess would be the creatine however.
 
What are your aims? Do you have a lot of weight to shift or are you just trying to drop some bodyfat and build mass?

If you've got a few stone to shift it seems a bit silly to be taking protein and creatine as it's going to be peeing up your own doorstep. Unless your still in a calorie defecit with them?
 
My diet mainly consists of oats/porridge or wheat abix for breakfast protine shake between lunch and breakfast, for lunch brown pasta/rice/pita with chicken breast/tuna snack of some various nuts dinner chicken/tuna/occasional steak plus veg with rice/pasta etc... Protine shake after gym.

Work outs are various,
legs: squats, leg press etc...
Shoulders: lat raises, free weight shoulder press, front raises etc...
Back: seated rows, dead lifts, lat pull downs etc...

Ya get the idea :) I do 5x5 @ 105kg on squats and 85kg dead lifts, the rest of my exercises I try to use free weights as much as posible. The lad I go with has been doing it for years and is in very good shape but he is useless for these type of questions hence me asking you guys :) if you need a more indepth explanation of my workout/diet let me know :)
 
You're taking protein shakes and creatine which is used to increase muscle mass by consuming a higher amount of calories. If you want to reduce your body fat you need to eat less calories, so you need to decide which you want to do.

MW
 
Loose weight or build mass. You can't do both at the same time like Mr-White has said (not with ease anyway).

Decide what you want to do, what you want first. More mass or less weight?

Personally I think going down the mass route is a better option as it will increase your metabolic rate meaning you burn more calories at rest which will in turn make a cut slightly easier.

Although tbh you should ditch the creatine it's not a necesity and in my opinion unnecesary for you at the moment. You don't need creatine to build mass. a lot of people think it's some magic ingredient much like whey when in reality it's not.

Get your diet sorted. Eat real food as much as you can and supplement when you can't and where is necesary. Train hard and rest well and you'll see results.
 
I want to bulk up a bit more and was hoping to shift a little more fat not loads in the process. I'm 5'9" and 17 stone ish but I don't feel mega fat my belly is flat tho a bit squishy despite being classed as obese, I always have been heavy even at around 10% bf I was 14 stone. As said earlier it's a bit easier to cut with more muscle so I don't mind bulking for a bit, my reason for starting this thread was my confusion at a jump in weight but un able to see any more fat/muscle bar on my already big for my body shoulders.
 
The answer is protein shakes. I tried using them but my diet completely stalled, if your overall goal is to lose weight/fat stop drinking them.
 
I can probably dead lift a bit more but I hurt my lower back a few years a go ( putting a carpet floor tile back of all things lol) and I'm a bit scaird of hurting it again :( I can leg press 310kg my legs definatly my strongest part tho I may have an advantage as they are quite short (31 inches :( )
 
I'm 5'8" and 10 stone, if I was in your shoes it'd be wanting to cut 3-4 stone and then start fresh with the bulking.

MW
 
Can you post pics up mate because without trying to be rude or presumptious,
I'm 5'9" and 17 stone ish but I don't feel mega fat my belly is flat tho a bit squishy despite being classed as obese, I always have been heavy even at around 10% bf I was 14 stone
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I'm struggling to come to terms with this statement MeEsh. You are either carrying far more bodyfat than you either think or are willing to admit, or you are genetically gifted with very dense muscle and very low bodyfat.
14st at 5ft 9in with 10% bf is still a pretty amazing feat imho.

As said, i'd drop the creatine for now, and possibly the protein. Drop your carbs a little as well and see how your body reacts to it, i.e. strength, general feeling etc.

Unless you are visibly ripped, i'd say you are carrying plenty of bf.
Get them pics up dude, and i'll wager you'll get some much better advice then.
:)
 
MeEsH BaKkA said:
Sammo I think I will take your advice, but I may as well finish the tub I have now around 20 days left :)
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That'll be a waste and only delay your progress. You'll need to plan a diet and gym routine based around low calorie intact and high calorie workouts.

MW
 
Creatine and losing weight...I don't think they mix too well because of how Creatine functions.
 
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