To those who dislike UK "immigrants"

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Non whites must be a rare sight in our land then?
Newly migrated, non-whites who have entered from outside the EU and through the standard immigration process? yeah, I'd imagine they make up a very small amount of immigrants let alone the population.

You do realise that as offensive to your beliefs as it may be there are non-white people with residency/citizenship from elsewhere within the EU, even if that's through parentage, who will be able to come and go as they please.
 

I have been in the Uk 8 years today.

Moved over from South Africa, and have a British passport by way of my mother (who was born in England to her Russian and Estonian migrant parents).

My older brother moved over here in 2000, off the back of his wife's Dutch passport. He worked as a network engineer, paid much in taxes and generally injected in to the economy.

Then he and his wife split up, and Home Office kicked him out of the country.

I have about 20 friends from SA, who came here, worked and lived, but had to go back as their 2 year working visa expired.

It is NOT easy for non-EU people to migrate to the UK.
 
In your opinion, which I think most people can see is completely wrong.

It's not an opinion it's a fact, of course White and Black skin colour can determine a race, but racism (which is what I wrote) does not ONLY pertain to skin colour, it is also based on national or ethnic origin.

And BTW I wasn't attacking you, only pointing out the facts. Your opinion counts as do others.

And you can have your opinion as long as it's the same as mine. :D
 
It's not an opinion it's a fact, of course White and Black skin colour can determine a race, but racism (which is what I wrote) does not ONLY pertain to skin colour, it is also based on national or ethnic origin.

And BTW I wasn't attacking you, only pointing out the facts. Your opinion counts as do others.

And you can have your opinion as long as it's the same as mine. :D

Your opinion is factually wrong, it's like me having the opinion that Barack Obama is our prime minister or that the moon is made of cheese.
 
It's not an opinion it's a fact, of course White and Black skin colour can determine a race, but racism (which is what I wrote) does not ONLY pertain to skin colour, it is also based on national or ethnic origin.

And BTW I wasn't attacking you, only pointing out the facts. Your opinion counts as do others.

And you can have your opinion as long as it's the same as mine. :D
A race consists of people grouped by inheritable features, so yes ethnic origin can be considered in defining someones race, but nationality cannot.
 
A race consists of people grouped by inheritable features, so yes ethnic origin can be considered in defining someones race, but nationality cannot.

I didn't write RACE I wrote RACISM... 2 different topics.... or to put it another way racial discrimination. look up the definition according to the UN or a dictionary...
 

It is fairly strict. I came here on a student visa. Which means no access to any public funds except for NHS. I initially applied for a dependent visa since I was below 18 and coming with my mom and that would bean that I would have access to state schools etc. Was rejected twice for that and given ridiculous reasons such as "Because your parents are still married and they take joint decisions as to what schools you go to etc, you can't come". Soon as I applied for a student visa, which meant I had to pay for schooling, instant visa.

To qualify for permanent residency, I would have to be here for 5 or so years. But stay under a student visa doesn't qualify. So even though i've been here 5 years now, it essentially means nothing in terms of residency and will not until I start working. And a small job somewhere wouldn't qualify for that either because they would have to sponsor me for a work permit. Under a post study visa (2 years long and does not qualify either) I could get a small job, but not after that.

So no, it's not that easy to migrate for non-EU. It's incredibly expensive (2 years of public schools + 3 years of uni + post graduate course + another one i'l be doing next year. and that's fees alone. Doesn't include money spent on rent, going out, and general living expenses). and I can guess that i'm not the only person in this situation.
 
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Your opinion is factually wrong, it's like me having the opinion that Barack Obama is our prime minister or that the moon is made of cheese.

Oh the hypocrisy and irony. So your opinions are fact yet someone else's aren't? Again DD, you seem to have all the assertions with absolutely no evidence.
 
No evidence that a white Englishman and a white Polish man aren't both white? ie. the same race?

Race is closely coupled with ethnicity which includes other factors such as religion and culture. Therefore two people who are both white may not be classed as the same race.

The 'Aryan' race is different to other white Europeans.
 
Race is closely coupled with ethnicity which includes other factors such as religion and culture. Therefore two people who are both white may not be classed as the same race.

The 'Aryan' race is different to other white Europeans.

Whatever mate, you are boring me. Believe what you want to believe.
 
Whatever mate, you are boring me. Believe what you want to believe.

Does that equate to "Ok, so I know I'm wrong, I can't rebut that statement so I'll just going to make a meaningless post"

I can quote you OED and other respected sources if you wish, but you obviously don't care if you are correct or not.
 
If there are any differences between people, idiots will always use it as an excuse to start a fight / segregate.

If the whole world was white, with some having blue eyes and others having green eyes, you can guarentee some skin-head **** would bang on about 'Britain for blue eyes' and other rubbish.

I know gents of Indian and Sri Lankan descent who are much more stereotypically English than myself.
If you think the colour of your skin comes into it, you're a mug.
 
To quote Gunnery Sergeant Hartman......"There is no racial bigotry here! I do not look down on *******, kikes, wops, or greasers; here you are all equally worthless! "
 
Does that equate to "Ok, so I know I'm wrong, I can't rebut that statement so I'll just going to make a meaningless post"

I can quote you OED and other respected sources if you wish, but you obviously don't care if you are correct or not.

Nope, I know I'm right, but debating with people like you is utterly pointless.
 
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