California votes to legalise Marijuana FOR EVERYONE!

Daegan said:
Because there wasn't a massive increase in usage?
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funnily enough usage of Marijuana has increased since Marijuana was de-criminalised in Holland.

again, its because there is no scientific evidence that shows long term psychological problems in relation to marijuana consumption.

but you can keep on grasping at straws.
 
groen said:
there was this one time that a person was laughing so hard that they fell off their couch and died. so that is a indirectly cannabis related fatality.
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As well as deaths due to driving high and other such things.

trouble is people don't think it through.

I have a safety critical job and can not have drugs in my system. Where are these going to smoke. Cannabis stays in you system a long time, how about people driving after using it?

Has this been thought about and taken into consideration?

But there is scientific link between mental health and usage, as you said so yourself. You have no idea if you have the underlying conditions. Legalising will increase useage and so more people with such conditions will use it.

And as I said above have you thought and taken into account what I said above? It is not as simple as just legalise it. Not saying it shouldn't be legalised, just that these things have to be taken into consideration.
 
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Skyfall said:
Never heard anyone claim this.
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The US government ran a big propaganda program ages ago where they said Cannabis fueled black rapists iirc.


Think the vids/posters are on youtube somewhere they were funny but really creepy that people believed them.
 
AcidHell2 said:
As well as deaths due to driving high and other such things.

trouble is people don't think it through.

I have a safety critical job and can not have drugs in my system. Where are these going to smoke. Cannabis stays in you system a long time, how about people driving after using it?

Has this been thought about and taken into consideration?
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Yes the compounds of the plant can stay in your system longer than other drugs, but if you consume cannabis one week it the remnants of the plant in your system 2 weeks later cannot effect your co-ordination or decision making.

But then i argue this with you, people take psychotropics and god knows what types of crazy pharmaceuticals and drive vehicles and go to work but there is no check for this is there?

for example, my work drug tests as well, for illegal substances, having cannabis in your system is an instant dismissal but having prozac isn't a problem, and i can guarantee you that taking a PSYCHOTROPIC in the morning with your breakfast is a lot more dangerous than consuming some cannabis the week before.
 
Keltik THC said:
for example, my work drug tests as well, for illegal substances, having cannabis in your system is an instant dismissal but having prozac isn't a problem, and i can guarantee you that taking a PSYCHOTROPIC in the morning with your breakfast is a lot more dangerous than consuming some cannabis the week before.
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I'm tested for all drugs legal and illegal. Even if I pop an asprin I have to inform management and they will print a medical form off and it may well limit duties I can carry out.

Prescribed drugs as they say are controlled. Most drugs also can not be passively inhaled. Where are they legalising the use?

It is a big consideration. One which i don't think you have thought of. Not just in driving but in a lot of areas.

I very much doubt alcohol or tobacco would be legal if introduced now. They are doing there best to get rid of tobacco. so why would it be a good idea to legalise other drugs.

On principle I would like all drugs to be legal for personal use. it's your body. But in reality so much more has to be considered.
 
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cannabis use in holland is less than the countries where it is illegal.

you shouldn't operate heavy machinery or drive under the influence of any mind or mood altering chemical. your judgement could be impaired and you could put your life and others at risk.

it even says something like that on most of the pharma info sheets. but when the police pull you over they are not checking for pharma drug use.
 
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Tefal said:
So this is 2 years old now did they fail or does it just take 2 years to pass a bill in the us?
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the general committee voted to pass it in January 2010 - this isnt the general assembly just the committee so its still progressing... as with all the other links i posted the media is saying they think it will pass... we have to wait a bit longer.

As you probably know passing laws can take a lot of time, especially when its an individual state asserting its 10th amendment right and going completely against the Federal Government.

The media is basically saying it looks like it will go to ballot in November 2010 and the public will vote to pass.

heres a link that explains everything, maybe this should be at the top of my original post:

http://www.canorml.org/news/TC2010.html
 
Your thread title is misleading btw, it alludes that California has voted to legalise it.

Maybe it should have been
"California votes whether to legalise Marijuana FOR EVERYONE! "
 
Skyfall said:
Your thread title is misleading btw, it alludes that California has voted to legalise it.

Maybe it should have been
"California votes whether to legalise Marijuana FOR EVERYONE! "
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my title was in regards to the general assembly committee and public safety committee who both have voted in favour - check the link.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/12/california-assembly-panel_n_420369.html

as with all politics its a bit of a minefield of various votes and debates.
 
TBH I think it's fairly sensible, California has always appeared to be a relatively permissive state. Just questionable that it's seemingly taken the promise of tax dollars to persuade legislators.
 
I'm struggling to see many negatives with this really.

Passive ingestion shouldn't be a problem if it's only legal in licensed premises or your home. And maybe they could just limit it to delicious cakes??

It's difficult to find unbiased information on the mental illness thing tho, some say it definitely 100% contributes to it, then lots of others say it doesn't..i'm inclined to believe it DOESN'T have a link, just through personal experience and the fact that our government scientists were fired for saying that it doesn't contribute...fired by politicians who don't know a test tube from a bunsen burner.

Hmm, doesn't really affect us anyway as our governments to scared of it's own shadow to even think about putting anything like this through.

My 2-pence anyway.
 
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