Thats the reason they are poorer, If they worked more then they wouldnt be poorer. Like anything, if you cant afford it, dont have it. Why should the taxpayer pay for it, your parents are well off, else you would get more grant money, let them pay. I pay for my childs education, as I paid for my own (with the help of my Father), why should I also pay for yours.
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Thats the reason they are poorer, If they worked more then they wouldnt be poorer. Like anything, if you cant afford it, dont have it. Why should the taxpayer pay for it, your parents are well off, else you would get more grant money, let them pay. I pay for my childs education, as I paid for my own (with the help of my Father), why should I also pay for yours.
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I'll say it again, you do not know their circumstances and you are not in a position to speculate either. You want what other people are getting instead of being grateful for what you've been given, this absurd sense of entitlement you seem to be having issues with is a product of your own greed, nothing more nothing less.
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It's nothing to do with greed I just think the system should be equal.
My parents have no money to give me, poorer kids parents have no money to give them.
So how are we different financially?
My parents have no money to give me, poorer kids parents have no money to give them.
So how are we different financially?
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You don't really get it. I'd love a phone on contract so I can ring my mates and I'd love a car, but I can't afford one :s So I don't have one. Give up the car and contract and people my sympathise with you.
The difference is astounding. In my uni you get a £1k bursary guaranteed if you get the full grant, plus the chance of getting another £1k bursary.
I get no grant because my parents work to hard
so someone gets a couple thousand non repayable grant + a higher maintenance loan + £1k bursary, + the chance of another bursary.No it's not fair in the slightest.
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Why? I've worked hard to pay for both, never had a cent off my parents or the tax payer for either. So how does that come into it?
Because someones not gone out, gotten a job and worked their arse off they're just lazier than me, not poorer.
Anyone if they work hard enough can afford to.
Because someones not gone out, gotten a job and worked their arse off they're just lazier than me, not poorer.
Anyone if they work hard enough can afford to.
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But from what you have stated your parents earn a lot of money so in my eyes and the eyes of everyone else they do have money ... im one of these " poor kids " as you put it in higher education mum doesn't work due to ilness no help there dad none exsistant well alive but not a part of my life no help there ... I rely on these higher grants and the financal help I get from the university because quite frankly I wouldn't even be able to eat without it. Oh and as for poor kids not working wrong ! I have worked currently " unemployed " but im looking hard to get another job and when I did work did I budget and save yes did it help yes but I didn't suddenly become rich I was on pittance money. So dont come with we dont have to work the stupid lazy ones don't the sensible ones do judgeing a book by its cover is never a good idea.
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I can't eat next year unless I get a job, my entire loan and grant goes on accomodation for the year. Thats all I get, nothing extra.
My parents can't chuck me £100 a month for food, it's a lot of money to them.
If you get a full grant you have the option of not working, i'm not offered that option.
In your eyes my parents have a higher income, but as far as expendable income goes they've got basically none if you'd actually think about it for a second, higher income = higher outgoings. How is that difficult to understand?
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Well it must be going somewhere??? that's probably what we don't understand.
Tell your parents to try and manage their money better.
Tell your parents to try and manage their money better.
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Somewhere, yeah, mortgage, a whole array of insurance and bills, commuting and repairs to all the crap that breaks non stop.
Then pension funds, food and putting a little away for a holiday when they can.
You earn more you spend more. If you can pay a mortgage you aren't gonna have a rented house.
I will be scanning ALL of your previous posts so that I can ascertain your true identity and then I will report you for this outrageous, disgusting and fraudulent behaviour/attitude - I really cannot believe what I am reading here.
Where do you think the bloody grant/bursary money comes from - THE TAX PAYER of course - it should go to talented and deserving people - not those with little social value - why should we pay for people like you who clearly have no morals and definately do not deserve the "privilege" of further education?
You seem to think that its your right - its not!
OUTBLOODYRAGEOUS!!!
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PS - unless of course the OP is simply giving us a Friday Windup - in which case - well done!
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Yup
The only way for you to be means tested on your own unearned income and/or partners income if applicable is for you to be either married, estranged from your parents, parents deceased or be a single parent.
So really no point to your plan of lying about your address, as it won't get you anywhere.
Edit: If you're really finding it difficult financially, talk to your University about the Access to Learning Fund and/or Hardship Loan(s).
Go and either get yourself a "marriage of convenience" - lots of websites out there apparently OR just "off" your parents - I am sure it wouldnt be too far beyond your mentality!!!
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They are the kind of people who pay for the rest of you in the form of higher taxes on rich people.
Thats right, paying for the parents of useless scrotes.
I FULLY understand the need for grants and loans, and indeed people do need a boost up in life to stop the cycle of poverty.
However I disagree on the point of who gets paid. Why should a hard working family like mine pay higher taxes, get nothing in welfare and then get screwed over again in terms of sending one of their offspring to university over some other family who does not earn the same amount of money. My parents were not born into money but have spent their lives working hard and honestly.
Why haven't you been trying to save some money then i take it you work now? so can't you save some from that there are ways and solutions as people have said yet you'd rather twine and put all your efforts in to trying to get money unlawfuly rather than putting them into saveing so you will have some extra money.
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I pay tax and NI. I have done since I was 16.
I've worked hard through school and college to basically be ****ed by the government while a bunch of lazy kids get an easy ride. I don't get given the option of not working, why should they have it if I can't?
In what world is that fair?
It's like if the government one day decided you were earning too much money because a relative got a payrise and stuck your income tax up.
If they don't have to, why should I bet slogging my guts out and even after that have less than they do?
I've worked hard through school and college to basically be ****ed by the government while a bunch of lazy kids get an easy ride. I don't get given the option of not working, why should they have it if I can't?
In what world is that fair?
It's like if the government one day decided you were earning too much money because a relative got a payrise and stuck your income tax up.
I have to put money away, but why should I have to?
If they don't have to, why should I bet slogging my guts out and even after that have less than they do?
get off the phone - give your friends a break (I am sure they will be delighted NOT to hear from you for a while) - get a job and pay your own way!
In other words MAN UP!
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THIS is not the issue in this thread - the issue is that you have asked us if FRAUD is acceptable to get you to University errrrrrrrrrrrr NO its bloody not!
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I asked whether it was fraud, personally I can't see how it's fraud, to me thats more of a loophole in the student loan system.
I'm not recieving any money from my parents or grandparents am I? If I was then yeah that might be different, but thats not happening so why wouldn't I try to find a loophole allowing for a fair allocation of funding.
But apparently it classes as fraud somehow (so the government can favour everyone but average joe)
You may not have any freinds but personally I like socialising and talking. Better than melting your brain in front of the telly.
You're just clicking into daily mail mode and not trying to understand where I'm coming from. I'm highlighting a major injustice in the student loan system and attempting to get round it using logic.
I'm not recieving any money from my parents or grandparents am I? If I was then yeah that might be different, but thats not happening so why wouldn't I try to find a loophole allowing for a fair allocation of funding.
But apparently it classes as fraud somehow (so the government can favour everyone but average joe)
If you'd read the thread you'd see I have 2 jobs on top of full time education at the moment.
You may not have any freinds but personally I like socialising and talking. Better than melting your brain in front of the telly.
You're just clicking into daily mail mode and not trying to understand where I'm coming from. I'm highlighting a major injustice in the student loan system and attempting to get round it using logic.
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We do understand, but no matter what advice we give you, you will always come back with "well they get it so why can't I, it's not fair".
The sooner you realise the error of your ways the better.