anyone owned an alfa 147 ?

Congrats Witor!

Over here the GTA prices are appriciating, which is nice for us owners ;) You could get a top notch 147GTA for less than £10k, now there are a bunch of dealer cars for £10-12k. They seem to be selling, although obviously its hard to know what they actually sold for.

Remember - Q2 diff is a MUST. Not only does it help improve traction, but it stops the diff exploding and leaving you with a hefty bill.

Check fluids constantly, regularly change and use decent oil, and it'll be a great purchase. 3 years on and I've no plans to change mine yet :)

Edit - and congrats Daz. Is that car white or silver? ;)
 
That 147 2.0TS 0-60 time is rather perplexing, all my usual sources quote the same figure.

Perhaps the 146 ti is almost a second quicker because it can do 100Km/h in 2nd:
 
I think it's gearing. IIRC, the 0-60 time for the 156 is quicker as it will do 60 in 2nd, my 147 needs 3rd just before it hits 60. In the real world, it doesn't feel sluggish, especially above 3.5k or so :)
 
I recently bought an Alfa 156 V6 and have loved every minute so far. Just needs a good service which I'll be doing myself. I've fitted a new MAF sensor due to the old one being old and oiled up plus the fuel tank connector needed a clean due to the gauge going all over the shop.

The cars do have their foibles but most of them are very well known and there are plenty of excellent websites to help. However you have to be willing to get your hands dirty, I don't think they would suit people who run to the dealers every time they hear some random noise.
 
BigglesPiP said:
That 147 2.0TS 0-60 time is rather perplexing, all my usual sources quote the same figure.
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Heavier car for a start - compared to the 'made out of tin foil' 146. Most of the tests are also probably done with ASR in the default 'on' position.
 
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MarkDavis said:
Heavier car for a start - compared to the 'made out of tin foil' 146. Most of the tests are also probably done with ASR in the default 'on' position.
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The 146 ti is heavier actually (1200Kg vs 1250Kg) and doesn't have T/C. Most 147s don't have T/C either.

Some say MarkDavis knows 2 facts about Alfas, and they're both wrong.
 
All 147s have ASR apart from the 105bhp version which I don't think reached the UK.

You've also misleadingly (or delliberately) selected the kerb weight of the LIGHTER 3dr 1.6 against the 2.0 5dr 2.0 146 Ti.

In case you had forgotten, you were talking about the 0-60 time of the 2.0 147.

For a lover of poorly built tin cans you don't seen to know much about them.
 
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I just double checked the English owners manual for the Mark 2 147 on eLUM, ASR is an option only, same for VDC.

I've never actually seen a 147 with T/C, always just the blank where the button would be.

You can't tell if the car doing the 0-60 test had ASR or not, and you can't tell if it was off or on.
 
Alfa Romeo manuals are generic documents catering for a number of markets across the whole of Europe. They'll list every combination possible, in every language possible, with the caveat "(if fitted)". You don't honestly think that they have seperate manuals for each specific sub-model for each different country do you?

I've never actually seen a 147 without ASR, always an ASR button where the ASR button should be.

It's even on the 1.6. All the 2.0 cars also have VDC.

As for telling whether ASR is on or not, its on by default. Even if you turn it off, it will come back on again when you restart the engine. I'm assuming that with official 0-60 times, the car will be tested in stock form.
 
VDC was standard fit on the 2.0 TS Lusso from launch until 2003. From 2003 onwards, all 2.0 TS Lusso had ESP with ASR as standard.
 
daz said:
Enjoying my Alfa so far... picked it up yesterday and it's a 2.0 Lusso with satnav and the top-end stereo. :)

Apologies for the terrible quality, i have a Windows mobile phone. :/

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Lovely car :)
 
daveydave said:
Oh and steer clear of the selespeed gearbox!
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or... buy them broken for ~£100, mend them, then sell them for ~£2k. It's like flipping Puntos with HGF only you need 3 extra things:
-You need to be competent with regards to spanners.
-You need alfadiag software and an OBD cable.
-The ability to diagnose the part which is wrong (pump, robot or plumbing), more spanner competency plus a workshop manual.

The Selespeed unit just wears out after 60,000 miles or so, it was the 1st gearbox of this type to be used in a car in this class after all. The dealers have been known to charge over £2,000 for the job.






Personally though I'd avoid it, because it's not very smooth when driving normally, the auto mode is quite hopeless and it's a bit iffy on the clutch control in 1st in any mode. When you're thrashing it though it's fantastic, you can stick it into 1st at more than 30mph and it's 100% smooth.
 
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