Yeah where the hell has prone gone?! What were they thinking when you have snipers. Or is this something brought over from console.
I've always found stamina meters to be a good way of curbing bunnyhopping, you can do it on occasion but you can't play the entire game bounching around like a rabbit on speed.
I just wish they would remove the jump key. It has no place whatsoever - it should only work over obstacles.
This really isn't about skill, it about trying to improve the game experience. I want to think that I'm in an intense battle with other like minded souls that have logged on for that taste of warfare. One that borders on the edge of reality, but is just real enough to make it feel plausible. When I see people hopping around just for a cheap advantage it completely pulls me out of that illusion, it just looks so unbelievably ludicrous. Battlefield has always been dressed up in real world attire, it doesn't have to be a sim to fix an issue that looks so pathetic.Nothing wrong with the jumping, its not hard to hit someone jumping about. I find people who moan about bunnyhoppers just need to learn to aim on a moving target. Usually they play on a server of noobs who dont jump and so never improve their aim for taking out people jumping abit. Its not hard.
People who jump are just playing the game to its full abilities and so may gain an advantage and rightly so. And before someone says you dont jump about in real life like that in a gun fight, I mean come on its a game... and an arcade game at that not even a sim. Go play PR or something if you want a more realistic game play.
lets talk about camping
really i dont see what the issue is, my buddy quite rightly pointed out to me yesterday, you dont see the men in iraq or afgan running round like madmen into the reign of fire
camping is good, its a tactical way of points and if points is what its all about then i say camp!!
This really isn't about skill, it about trying to improve the game experience. I want to think that I'm in an intense battle with other like minded souls that have logged on for that taste of warfare. One that borders on the edge of reality, but is just real enough to make it feel plausible. When I see people hopping around just for a cheap advantage it completely pulls me out of that illusion, it just looks so unbelievably ludicrous. Battlefield has always been dressed up in real world attire, it doesn't have to be a sim to fix an issue that looks so pathetic.
Also, if they removed the bunny hop, then everyone would be at the same disadvantage, and therefore would have no disadvantage. So your notion of lacking skills falls down, cant we just make the game look better?
Everyone is already at the same advantage with jumping, its there so use it, if you dont your loss. To me the game looks fine as is, I like the arcade battlefield feel. I dont play for a taste of semi accurate warfare, to me no game really does that PR maybe but all in all its just a game. In fact id want it to be abit different with abit of jumping etc, keeps it fast pace and feeling like a game. Games that limit jumping etc just encourage people to camp, then its boring and people just sit about and if you step out you get shot, so you dont, and the circle continues.
I don't see how limiting jumping encourages camping. I've been playing since the beta came out and the vast majority of players don't feel the need to hit their jump key all the time when attacking. If jump was disabled it would be an annoyance, but the majority of players only seem to use jump when going over an obstacle or through a window anyway, so players wouldn't suddenly camp if they couldn't jump.
I love this game so far my only issue is the c4 users that blow the objectives up straight away
The most fun on it so far is trying to keep the hill after the first push that everyone snipes from, always manages to turn into a massive battle.

Sounds like one of the many problems I have encountered.
I white screen quite regularly, my ATI 5770 crashes and my VPU recover kicks in, screen freezes, when starting on the attacking side the screen is totally black apart from my team makers above their heads, etc etc.
Should all be getting fixed but how they reckon this game will be ready in a little over a month is beyond me!
Saved me commenting - thanks. Agree completely.This really isn't about skill, it about trying to improve the game experience. I want to think that I'm in an intense battle with other like minded souls that have logged on for that taste of warfare. One that borders on the edge of reality, but is just real enough to make it feel plausible. When I see people hopping around just for a cheap advantage it completely pulls me out of that illusion, it just looks so unbelievably ludicrous. Battlefield has always been dressed up in real world attire, it doesn't have to be a sim to fix an issue that looks so pathetic.
Also, if they removed the bunny hop, then everyone would be at the same disadvantage, and therefore would have no disadvantage. So your notion of lacking skills falls down, cant we just make the game look better?
still no beta code off Play for me (up to about 40 hrs now) - and I called them yesterday
not impressed