Guitar tutor - What to expect?

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Right, I've jumped past the whole teach yourself bit, because that's not going to happen. I did a few chords and lost motivation. I've now done the sensible thing and found myself a tutor. 1 hour a week at £12 an hour to start off with and not too far away. Great stuff, but...

What should I be expecting from a tutor? Being a total poo flinging n00b I'm not sure what to look out for so I thought I'd ask here in case I'm being taught by a total plank and not realising it. I want to make sure I'm getting taught properly :)

Also, I still have one of those over priced 10w (maybe even 5w) Fender practice amps that sounds truly awful and uninspiring. I'm very broad when it comes to music taste and would like to have some flexibility. Would a modelling be a good idea, and which one should I go for? The Peavey Vypyr seems to be well received and although I won't be gigging and will be just playing for my own & dogs gratification, the 30w models seem to be better specced over the 15w.

Muchos thankos in advance :)
 
Hey Dup,

I'm a guitar teacher, I've been teaching for over 5 years and am currently trying to build up my students to do it full time.

The first thing I will say is £12 per hour is very cheap, I charge £16 p/hour which is still very cheap (average for my locale - Yorkshire, is 18-20, I would charge more if I had a better room to teach from.) This isn't supposed to mean that he isn't a good teacher, but you get what you pay for usually.

A teacher's job first and foremost should be to help you achieve your goals, the advantage of having a teacher will be that he should help you do this by saving you time, this can be done by choosing appropriate songs/riffs/guitar parts for you to learn that facilitate the topics he is teaching you. What are you wanting to do on the guitar? Do you want to be able to play some of your favourite music? This is the most common reason people go for lessons, if this is correct, then the topics you are covering in lesson should be related to the music you are interested in. If he hasn't asked you questions like; who are your favourite bands, do you have a favourite guitarist, what music do you like, why do you want to play guitar, then how can he know what to teach you? If he has asked you these things then he is considering your goals, which is good.

For example, one of my students loves pop music, he isn't into the guitar as such, meaning he doesn't have a favourite guitar player/riff/solo etc, he likes playing along to music on the radio, such as Michael Buble, James Morrison ( a guitar player but not famous for his playing ), so our lessons are geared towards learning chord shapes and how to strum, so ultimately he can play along with the music he enjoys. Use this example to ask yourself if the teacher is teaching you appropriately, if I was teaching this student things such as string bending, speed playing, tapping, etc, then the lessons wouldn't be appropriate - note there are always exceptions to this 'rule', over time a teacher should introduce you to music you haven't heard, techniques that are new to you, even guitar effects/settings you aren't familiar with, all with a view to broaden your knowledge of the subject and inspire you.

That being said, to be able to play anything on the guitar you do need a basic understanding and grasp of technique, so I will teach everyone the correct way(s) to sit with the guitar, hold the pick, correct left hand placement to fret notes and chord efficiently, then always a collection of exercises involving 'alternate picking' (picking in both directions with the guitar pick), strumming and gradually introduce other techniques; sliding, hammer-ons/pull-offs etc etc (always depending on their own goals). - So I would expect your teacher to have shown you some of these OR you should be working on at least ONE song, as to be honest NO ONE wants to sit and play exercises, he should get you playing a song as soon as possible (I always have the student leave their first lesson with a song to play).

One final thing I will add is make sure you get along with your tutor, a guitar tutor is an investment, and an expensive one, guitar is also usually very popular with a few teachers in a region, you should shop around and try other tutors, don't feel pressured to stay with one if you don't feel comfortable.

In terms of modelling amps, the Line 6 spider amps are decent value, Vox also do some good modelling amps. I haven't heard anything about the Peavey's so can't comment, Line 6 are the most well known for modelling with Vox's amps also being well reviewed, so I would investigate these.
 
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Excellent reply and encouraging. Will have to think up some of my fave songs then. I have a very ocean depth scope of music taste really and just immerse myself in whatever the mood fancies and don't pick and choose. I'm pretty quiet about music too, get embarrassed when talking about preferences and taste but that will have to change I suppose!

The area has a lot of choice tutor wise and I had a hard time singling one out. None of them advertise much, mainly a card in the local shop. This guy had the better time slot for me and I had to wait for it, so that's how I've come to choose plus he had a nice website. I don't know anyone local well enough whose guitary to recommend anyone. I'm 24, so having a late go I suppose. Never done anything like this before as I've not had the friends or family to lean me into it, plus I've always been a shy kid.

Thanks for the insight, very valuable to anyone looking to learn. I hope I can stick it out get to the level I want to. Without something to work for, life seems a little dull. Good luck getting your full time tutoring venture off the ground. Having a part time student base and some word of mouth can't hurt :)
 
Cheers dude :)

One last thing - there's nothing wrong with liking a wide variety of music, this is a positive for both you and the teacher - as it means they can demonstrate the full variety of styles/techniques available without fear of you losing interest, but definitely keep your tutor updated on any artists/even specific songs you've been enjoying lately, any kind of feedback helps.

If you have any other questions as you go along feel free to add me to msn or something, I'm always looking for extra practise :D
 
Andelusion covered everything beautifully, but I would like to reiterate the fact that you do get what you pay for, and £12 an hour is exceptionally cheap. You never know, they could be a gem and you may have grabbed yourself a bargain, but be aware.
 
Don't be afraid to book a one off lesson with a few different tutors and see which one you get on with, you're hiring them so make sure you make the right choice.

As for cheap but good amps i'll throw a thumbs up for the Roland Cube 30x or for a tube amp an Epiphone Valve Junior.

Good luck and let us know how you're lesson goes!
 
I completely forgot about the Roland Cube - that's pretty much the bee's knees at that price point for a modelling amp, or any kind of amp really.
 
I wish my teacher only charged £12 an hour, I pay £11 for half an hour, although he is a very good teacher, and classical tutors are in short supply round my area.
Just one point I would like to make, as it is for your own enjoyment don't bother taking any exams.
 
I wish my teacher only charged £12 an hour, I pay £11 for half an hour, although he is a very good teacher, and classical tutors are in short supply round my area.
Just one point I would like to make, as it is for your own enjoyment don't bother taking any exams.

Interesting point on exams.

I wouldn't go into guitar lessons with the intention of taking exams, but I've lost count of the number of students (saxophone students, admittedly) who have started with no intention of taking exams or gigging - playing purely for their own enjoyment - who within 6/12/18 months are craving a physical target, and start on the road to studying for an exam, or start to get the "band" itch.

Keep an open mind - I know the Rock School (Trinity Guildhall run, IIRC) exams are very popular with guitar students at work.

Oh, and £24 an hour here down south-ish!
 
Interesting point on exams.

I wouldn't go into guitar lessons with the intention of taking exams, but I've lost count of the number of students (saxophone students, admittedly) who have started with no intention of taking exams or gigging - playing purely for their own enjoyment - who within 6/12/18 months are craving a physical target, and start on the road to studying for an exam, or start to get the "band" itch.

Keep an open mind - I know the Rock School (Trinity Guildhall run, IIRC) exams are very popular with guitar students at work.
Very good point. Exams are a great way of setting goals and giving students something to actually work towards, rather than just doing a bit of this and a bit of that.

The Rock School graded exams are extremely popular amongst guitarists, but they are a bit of a joke. They're ideal for students that just want a target of some sort, but they aren't particularly difficult. I just get the feeling they were only conceived to make money, and fill an obvious gap in the market. The ABRSM are obviously the place to go for 'proper' exams, but no student that's learning for fun is going to want to take them.
 
Do you want to learn how to play the guitar, or how to play recognisable tunes and impress your mates?

I wanted the latter and with a bit of perseverance (because you eventually hit the wall where it seems your goal is impossible) managed to teach myself. My technique is probably shocking, but I can strum pretty much everything with the chords and while it doesn't sound breathtaking, it's definitely recognisable and perfect for a singalong. Just keep messing about with it till you get it right.
 
It's not about impressing mates, I probably wouldn't have the confidence to play in front of anyone outside my own household really. So the dogs and my girlfriend :D

I did think about exams or grading but to be honest my first goal is to play some recognisable tunes and from where who knows?

I have my first lesson tomorrow night and will see how it goes. Most people in the area seem to work out of their bedrooms so to speak but this guy has a home studio of sorts with recording and backing track facilities. Whether that's helpful will remain to be seen but he advertises as more of a rock style teacher which is where I want to start as I have an electric guitar already. I do have an interest in acoustic too, but I'm not exactly flush hence the £12 an hour and taking a chance approach. His website is here although it doesn't tell much really, more of a contact me place-holder.

For what it's worth right now, I believe this guy will get me off the ground and into the world of guitar. If I start to think I'm not moving forwards I'll re-assess it. Until I sit in his studio and take instruction I won't be going anywhere. I'm in this for the life skill and hobby rather than a career. I'm 24 and feel I've pushed hobbies to one side and spent a little too much time playing computer games. I'd like to accomplish something and so here I am!


Thanks for the help guys, it's much appreciated. My colleague has a Roland Cube and rates it well. My interest in the Peavey is that the pedal accessory can access all the pre-sets and modes on the fly but it also has a looping function has demonstrated here. Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself but I'm just doing the research before going in head first. For now the Craptise amp will have to do but If I find myself liking the lessons and begin to play something resembling music I think the Peavey will cover my music scope well. Might be trying to do too much at once but I believe it is at least better than the Line 6 spider sound wise.
 
i pay £20 a hour for a very good tutor but also use justinguitar.com and you tube for additional lessons.

Iv got the peavey vypyr 30. Its an amazing amp but one thing to note is its wayyyy too loud. The volume goes up to 13 and in the house i rarely take it above 1! although plug in headphones and you need to use about 8 (which can cause issues if the headphones are pulled out and it scares the living **** out of you)
 
Lesson went OK, going back on Tuesday. Did a bit too much talking and an hour isn't very long so I can't say either way yet. It's a second line of income for him and he's got a nice setup going on. He certainly knows a lot of the theory side and he did seem a bit nervous so for the minute its benefit of the doubt. He said this week I'll be learning an actual song to play so I'm looking forward to that as opposed to plucking open chords which can be a bit of a chore.

I think I've settled on the Vypyr, just waiting for pay day to roll around. Also, for anyone interested here is the guitar I was given, here.
 
andelusions given all the information you need really

and seconded, very cheap rates he's charging. I'm a teacher in london, and my standard rates are £30/hour

guitar looks great as well, i recommend ibanez to a lot of my students, good solid guitars. best of luck with your endeavours! once you've got the basics nailed, guitar can be so enjoyable just picking up chord books and tabs and playing through on your own. practice should rarely be a chore, balance the more strenuous technical learning/progression with a hell of a lot of learning chords/tabs from songs you want to learn
 
Well, second lesson today and I'm quite happy to be honest. It's clear he's newish to teaching but he's also throwing in the theory in there and not just focusing on playing which is great. It's clear he has a few casual students who just want to learn certain songs which he tabs for them but I'm more open to the terminology, structure of sheet music and tableture etc. so we covered quite a lot of that today.

I now have a song to learn (The Verve - Drugs Don't Work) now I can read the tab and also a simple rhythm exercise to help with it.
 
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