Baby P's stepfather scalded by a so called 'napalm' bomb

shauncr91 said:
To those who think this wasn't justified, why not? To me the justification is the years of torture he put the kid through.
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It is in no way justified. We have the law and he will server a minimum of 12 years or is it 22 years in prison and in all likely hood will never see freedom again. Violence solves nothing and there certainly is no justification for vigilante violence.
 
shauncr91 said:
To those who think this wasn't justified, why not? To me the justification is the years of torture he put the kid through.
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So for toturing someone for 2 years you want him to be tortured for years? Can you not see the irony in that? What exactly makes us better than him if we think torturing someone is OK? I had thought "Well he did it first!" was an excuse we stopped using when we left primary school.
 
Red Porsche said:
<Insert generic keyboard warrior comment here>

Two wrongs certainly do not make a right no matter what the person has done. I agree the sentence is short but the law is the law.
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....And if it had been your son he had abused tortured and killed?
 
shauncr91 said:
To those who think this wasn't justified, why not? To me the justification is the years of torture he put the kid through.
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His punishment is 12 years inside, not 12 years of torture. I agree that the sentence is light considering the crimes he was found guilty of, personally I think an appropriate sentence would have been a minimum of 70 years. It's certainly not for other prisoners to go around dealing their own form of justice however - the man who threw the boiling water on Mr Barker, what crimes is he guilty of? What about his victims? IMO in prison they are all equally guilty, no better or worse than any other prisoners.
 
Makes a change seeing a British inmate get a harsh punishment for his crimes, just a shame that it requires other criminals to do it.
 
SkodaMart said:
....And if it had been your son he had abused tortured and killed?
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There's a good reason why we don't allow the family of victims to decide the punishment and you've just highlighted it with an appeal to emotion.

For what it is worth if someone did similar to one of my family I'd quite possibly want to see them strung up but that's hardly a reasoned response to the crime and in doing so it doesn't make me any better than the person who committed the original offense.
 
Funny how you guys shy away from reports of stonings and vicious acid attacks on perpetrators of crime in Middle Eastern and Islamic nations yet it's all 'good' here.
 
SkodaMart said:
....And if it had been your son he had abused tortured and killed?
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If the man who attacked Mr Barker was inside for GBH or something against your son, would you still laud him as a hero?

semi-pro waster said:
There's a good reason why we don't allow the family of victims to decide the punishment and you've just highlighted it with an appeal to emotion.
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Empathy with victims is an important part of an effective criminal justice system that we are sadly lacking in, Broken Britain etc.
 
KNiVES said:
Funny how you guys shy away from reports of stonings and vicious acid attacks on perpetrators of crime in Middle Eastern and Islamic nations yet it's all 'good' here.
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To be fair, there have been threads in support of the Iranian, Saudi etc justice systems when dealing with child rapists etc.
 
scorza said:
Empathy with victims is an important part of an effective criminal justice system that we are sadly lacking in, Broken Britain etc.
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Sorry, you've lost me. I don't believe I've said we should not have empathy for the victim. I have however said that the victims should not decide on the punishment - if we want justice to be fair and impartial then we cannot allow purely emotional responses to govern the punishment as would likely be the case if it were only victims or their families deciding on the punishment.
 
Should have been acid, wait, no, a bullet in the brain.

Well, no, let him suffer.

This is only the start for him, he won't get out of prison alive, even if he does, someone will kill him once hes out anyway.

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semi-pro waster said:
Sorry, you've lost me. I don't believe I've said we should not have empathy for the victim. I have however said that the victims should not decide on the punishment - if we want justice to be fair and impartial then we cannot allow purely emotional responses to govern the punishment as would likely be the case if it were only victims or their families deciding on the punishment.
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So you agree that his punishment should have been much, much harsher than it was due to the disgusting nature of what he did?
 
Burnsy2023 said:
I think I'll avoid jumping on the vigilante bandwagon.
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Speak for yourself. :D


SEX CASE SEX CASE HANG'IM HANG'IM HANG'IM !!! :p:p:p





Nice to see that OcUK has found a good use for Prisoners even if it is Torturing sex offenders. :cool:
 
Even the lowest of the low in the prison are filled with disgust for what he did. That says something no?

As has been said, I don't agree with the guy having boiling water chucked over him, but, I have no sympathy for him either.
 
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