Poll: Your Nationality
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Why not Celt, Pict, Saxon, Roman etc? Not trying to start a flame war, but discussion of nationality and identity is rarely as simple as people might suggest.
Yes, I have been lobbying for my pictish passport for years.
The fact is English and British are commonly mistaken as being one and the same which is derogatory to the other home nations.
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Indian, but born/lived in England my whole life
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Scottish.
Independence F T W !
Independence F T W !
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100% Danish
Where the **** is Cornish? I demand that we have Cornish in the polls. We are separate from England and have our own language.
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I would rather people didn't know I was Cornish tbh. This place sucks
Agree entirely on both counts. In that order too. Our language is a mess though.
I'm from Northern Ireland but am British as Northern Irish isn't a real nationality
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Born in northern ireland to northern irish parents, however my second name is scottish.
So im British
So im British
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Welsh, boyo.
The reason isn't strange:
Wales was conquered by England in the 13th century, thus removing Welsh as a nationality. Can't be a nationality if it isn't a nation.
Scotland unified with England in 1707 for financial reasons (England was a rich empire, Scotland was a poor little country with a ruined economy and needed bailing out big-time), thus removing English and Scottish as nationalities for the same reason.
However...
For the same reason, British isn't officially a nationality either. Britain isn't a nation because it's part of the UK (which is a nation). Yet 'British' is offically accepted as a nationality.
Applying the same standards would either mean that English, Scottish and Welsh are official nationalities or that British isn't either.
Could you find anyone alive today who's one of those? Particularly since 'Celt' was never any kind of identity and was made up many centuries later. It would be better to speak in terms of Iceni, Brigante, Trinovante, Catuvellauni, etc, and even those might be the wrong names anyway - are they the names the tribes used for themselves or the Roman names for them?
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Scotland (nor Wales, nor Northern Ireland, nor England itself) is not an independent country nor is it a State. However, Scotland and wales are most certainly a nation of people living in an internal division of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Scotland for instance has recognised international boundaries.