Windows Planning New Windows 7 Privacy Check

paradigm said:
Good thing IMO, people really do need to stop leeching software that they actually want to use.
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this :).

optitech-uk said:
All Microsoft should do is reduce the damn price and a lot more people will buy it. When I build systems I make sure the customers get a genuine copy and the option is not there for an illigal copy of Windows & any other software for that matter of fact. I hate piracy.
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You could preorder Retail Windows 7 Home Premium for £45 which is practically giving it away! Anyway, since when is £90-100 (W7 Home Premium retail) for an operating system expensive?
 
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Meatball said:
this :).



You could preorder Retail Windows 7 Home Premium for £45 which is practically giving it away! Anyway, since when is £90-100 (W7 Home Premium retail) for an operating system expensive?
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It's not expensive, however not everyone can offord that sort of prices when all they have to do is price it lower. For an operating system the prices stink. Software prices are silly anyway. (Most)
 
I have no problem with this in principle.
Anyone that can afford to build/buy a PC that needs an operating system that will give you DX11 can afford to pay for it IMHO.
Win7 is actually reasonably priced, although I do think older, unsupported versions of Windows could be distributed for next to nothing. I dual boot Win7 & XP but there is no way I'd pay for an XP license for the couple of games I want to run on it. Lucky I already have one.

No problem in principle, but let's see how it works in practise. ;)
 
It's a voluntary install, you can uninstall it and in the unlikely event it mistakenly identifies your product as pirated it turns your wallpaper black and gives you a couple of messages - no reduced functionality or data loss. I'll admit they made a hash of the WGA thing when it first came out but hopefully we won't see a repeat of that.

The journos are making a big deal about the 90 day check and how users have to 'prove' they have valid software 'over and over again' but if they can think of a better solution to keeping the tool current then I'm all ears. I doubt the average user would care or even notice this is happening.

It was inevitable the bloggers et al would jump on this but in light of the facts they do look rather silly... 'Microsoft in defending it's intellectual property shocker' :rolleyes:
 
All my copies of Windows 7 are legitimately purchased.

Though I did love it a few years ago when all the PCs at school came up with the "Your software is not genuine" thing and my, ahem, copy worked fine.*

*I don't condone software piracy. I just really didn't want to buy another license for dual booting with OS X on my MacBook Pro - so I used the license I'd legitimately bought for my PC (IMHO this should be allowed as I never had both running at the same time so at any moment in time I was only using one license).
 
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Anyone who thinks Windows 7 is expensive just have no idea what they are talking about. I am sure I have posted something similar before, but £150 for Windows 7 Pro is amazing value. It works out at 41p a day for a year. That cost drops further as time goes on.

The OS is the one piece of software you are 100% guaranteed to use when you turn on your computer [ignoring dual booters of course who have a choice of which]. It lets you play your expensive games on your expensive hardware. It lets you browse these rather excellent forums and download any type of pr0n that floats your proverbial boat. It lets you do everything you do on a computer.

<41p a day is very, very small price to pay. Especially since the OS will be supported and updated long after you have stopped using it.
 
SiriusB said:
Anyone who thinks Windows 7 is expensive just have no idea what they are talking about. I am sure I have posted something similar before, but £150 for Windows 7 Pro is amazing value. It works out at 41p a day for a year. That cost drops further as time goes on.

The OS is the one piece of software you are 100% guaranteed to use when you turn on your computer [ignoring dual booters of course who have a choice of which]. It lets you play your expensive games on your expensive hardware. It lets you browse these rather excellent forums and download any type of pr0n that floats your proverbial boat. It lets you do everything you do on a computer.

<41p a day is very, very small price to pay. Especially since the OS will be supported and updated long after you have stopped using it.
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Agreed and on top of all that Windows 7 is a fantastic fantastic OS that absoloutely deservers your money
 
£150 is too expensive for a mainstream home OS tho... you have to face reality... at £45 on the pre-order I know a lot of die-hard pirates who even bought it... even bought multiple copies. IMO the OEM prices are the prices that retail should be.
 
£150 for retail is perfectly fine, people pay £25 for a game which lasts weeks, an OS lasts years and is used the entire time the computer is on so the cost is cheap in comparison.
 
I think there's two types of pirates. There's the kind who pirated XP/Vista because they found them too expensive to consider purchasing - quite a few of those people actually bought 7 on pre-order (I remember plenty of "this is the first time I actually bought Windows" posts!)

The other kind of pirates just won't pay for anything which they can get for nothing. It's pointless trying to lure them in by reducing the price even more, because they wouldn't even pay £1 for it.

I think MS got the pricing just about right.
 
Rroff said:
£150 is too expensive for a mainstream home OS tho... you have to face reality... at £45 on the pre-order I know a lot of die-hard pirates who even bought it... even bought multiple copies. IMO the OEM prices are the prices that retail should be.
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You done the maths? You ever heard of a loss leader?
How could you possibly know what price they need to sell at to make a profit? (It's a business)
Do you bear in mind that OEM is software that potentially has to be bought more than once, hence the cheaper price?
I'd be interested to see the nuts and bolts behind your argument. :)
 
If you can't afford it or think it is overpriced, then do without. I think Innocent Smoothies are overpriced for what they are but it doesn't justify me stealing them!
 
mrk said:
£150 for retail is perfectly fine, people pay £25 for a game which lasts weeks, an OS lasts years and is used the entire time the computer is on so the cost is cheap in comparison.
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I'd have to disagree and say £150 is too expensive. Most households don't have just one PC. For students or individuals the price is OK but for a family with a few PCs it's extremely expensive especially if they upgraded to Vista a while back.

I don't know if MS do family licencing but I personally think they should offer free upgrades to people with vista and get rid of it then support the one new operating system removing the bad mark from their name at the same time too. I feel sorry for people that bought Vista, but I went from XP to 7 when it was £45 as I was lucky enough to have Vista on a work laptop and saw how slowly it performed. Our work laptops now have windows 7 on them and the same machines are loads faster.
 
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