9/11 Third Tower mystery "solved".

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There are 100's more engineers which can be backed up with education and jobs saying it would fall like that. It was damage and fire. Weekend one spot, which pulled the rest down.


Can you explain to me how you can have cascade of floor failures and free fall throughout the whole building at the same time.

Now remember every single column had to give way at the same place and the same time for free fall to happen.
 
Sorry but all you've posted here for us is "some people said something to me that made certain unspecified events seem out of sync"

Basically you've told us your mate dave down the pub told you it was rigged.

Theres a difference between saying - some things don't entirely make sense to me and saying "it must be the government".

Do you realise just how silly you are now starting to sound? Part of their meticulous planning was to hijack a plane and then get the passengers to force it into the ground in the middle of nowhere. To make it seem "more realistic". To make an unprecidented terrorist attack "more realistic".




Of course, to make something impossible (setting up the largest ever controlled demolition on two buildings that are occupied without anyone knowing) always requires "top secret technology that few know about, apart from someone who used to work as an assistant in materials science". Forgive me if I do not suddenly see the credibility of this argument...




When does "keeping an open mind" start to become "gullible"? When there is absolutely no credible evidence why on earth would you give the CT nuts the benefit of the doubt?

Your taking me a little too literally... my comment about the mishap was hypothetical.

Rigging a building like the WTC for a demolition of the type seen on that day only requires detail schematics and access to a range of floors within certain optimal zones - its very rare in a building like that, that all teh floors are occupied - quite often theres dozen available for rent, etc. if you hired a few floors through a proxy company, then went through the motions of refitting the floor for your new company no one is going to look too closely. Tho as mentioned above the chances of every single person in your conspiracy being that dedicated that nothing slips out seems somewhat unlikely.
 
oh just **** off you little ****.

the WTC is gone, the site has been cleaned and NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR IMMATURE LITTLE FANTASIES ABOUT GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACIES. GROW THE **** UP.

if you are not interested in the truth, then **** off back to your tv.

You are probably a government employee. who said anything about a government conspiracy ?

These people that think big lies are just impossible and that billions of people could not be tricked or lied to are dreaming. You think any story that goes against what teh government says happened is a "government conspiracy".

The government lies, get over it. nothing immature about it.

We have solid evidence of controlled demolition.

witness testimonies of explosions
video evidence of explosions
audio evidence of explosions
scientific evidence of thermite in the dust

there is no doubt that it was three controlled demolitions, that has not been something of debate for over 4 years in some circles. You don't have to be a scientists or a physics professor to know when you see a controlled demolition.

It is not the act itself you struggle to accept, it is the implications that you are scared of.

while we are on teh topic of "conspiracy theories" how about i tell you we have never been to the moon and that it is NOW scientificly proven that it is impossible that man has ever been to the moon ?

watch apollo zero. now before you FREAK OUT in to your conditioned "it is all conspiracy theory" bull**** mentality. chill the **** out, and go watch the video and see for yourself. spend some time out of your tv watching life and think a little.

www.apollozero.com
 
I never get why CT's always go for the extreme "it was missiles/controls demolition" ratehr than the far more likely they where informed about the planned attack (mossad informed the us iirc)decided that it was in their best interests for it to happen, and so did little to prevent it. or possibly even help it.



They could have made sure known participants were not apprehended, or got the funding they needed.

Made sure that the people whose job it is to stop/detect such attacks were hindered. (lack of orders/training exercises well timed)

And a whole host of more likely ways of letting it happen.


I think the only conspiracy/cover up that was involved was to cover up/divert attention away from their failings that day.

Failure to act on information and failure to act when it actually happened.
 
One thing I do find a bit weird... for a terror group with the supposed financial backing, etc. theres a lot easier ways to go about events of that day.

Even hiring a few floors, packing them with explosives under the guise of refurbishing and doing the guy fawks thing would have been an order of magnitude easier... or just rolling a truck or 2 packed with explosives upto the doors as mentioned above.
 
It didn't and we've been through this before. Remember you kept lying.


No your so wrong..

No answer what I asked please..And it is in the Nist report that free fall happend.

Here I will help you ..again

FROM NIST ok that's NIST

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NIST NCSTAR 1A at 45 states: [November 2008]"
The slope of the velocity curve is approximately constant between about 1.75 s and 4.0 s, and a good straight
line fit to the points in this range (open-circles in Figure 3-15) allowed estimation of a constant downward
acceleration during this time interval. This acceleration was 32.2 ft/s2 (9 .81 m/s2 ), equivalent to the acceleration of mavity g.
 
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I think the only conspiracy/cover up that was involved was to cover up/divert attention away from their failings that day.

Failure to act on information and failure to act when it actually happened.

That is the only conspiracy that I feel has any deffinate merit.
 
scientific evidence of thermite in the dust

No, there was evidence that there was iron, iron oxide, aluminium and aluminium oxide in the rubble.

Massive steel and aluminium structure + aluminium, iron and steel furnishings + aluminium air plane combined with large amounts of oxygen and heat = shock horror oxides of iron and aluminium....
 
I don't think most CT nuts know what thermite is ;)

tbh tho you could probably find that evidence from dust samples if you took enough from any major city under normal conditions even.
 
One thing I do find a bit weird... for a terror group with the supposed financial backing, etc. theres a lot easier ways to go about events of that day.

Even hiring a few floors, packing them with explosives under the guise of refurbishing and doing the guy fawks thing would have been an order of magnitude easier... or just rolling a truck or 2 packed with explosives upto the doors as mentioned above.

Look at all the fear put in at airports afterwards. Terrorists are out to cause as much terror as possible, hence the name. It put a lot of people off flying, caused havoc with the airways, cost millions re-fitting airports with new safety devices etc. All things that wouldn't have happened had they simply blown it up
 
That is the only conspiracy that I feel has any deffinate merit.

Yep and is probably certain to be true.

Time again companies, individuals, intelligence agencies and government offices have shown that when they **** up they will try and cover it up :p
 
One thing I do find a bit weird... for a terror group with the supposed financial backing, etc. theres a lot easier ways to go about events of that day.

Even hiring a few floors, packing them with explosives under the guise of refurbishing and doing the guy fawks thing would have been an order of magnitude easier... or just rolling a truck or 2 packed with explosives upto the doors as mentioned above.

That isn't actually easier. Before the event no one was really checking on who was getting flight training. However getting together enough explosives to do that sort of damage is a lot harder without setting off alarm bells. Even more so after Oaklahoma.
 
One thing I do find a bit weird... for a terror group with the supposed financial backing, etc. theres a lot easier ways to go about events of that day.

Even hiring a few floors, packing them with explosives under the guise of refurbishing and doing the guy fawks thing would have been an order of magnitude easier... or just rolling a truck or 2 packed with explosives upto the doors as mentioned above.

Getting that much explosives/makeing them and then getting them inside such a high profile building in America is very difficult to achieve.


And iirc they did try just driving a tuck bomb up to the WTC before. (and at events such as Oklahoma)

As have many other bombers though out history but this was something much more high profile and easier to achieve (sneaking some box cutters aboard a plane is easier than manufacturing large quantities of high grade explosives)
 
That isn't actually easier. Before the event no one was really checking on who was getting flight training. However getting together enough explosives to do that sort of damage is a lot harder without setting off alarm bells. Even more so after Oaklahoma.

Getting military/industrial grade sure... but you only need a half decent chemist and theres 100s of ways to make explosives from every day domestic products that in enough quantity would do the same thing - off the top of my head fertilizer/some stuff with nitrates is the only one thats really actively tracked.
 
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No your so wrong..

No answer what I asked please..And it is in the Nist report that free fall happend.

Selective memory

yes you stated the collapse started at teh Top - it did not
You said I was using 2006 report - I was not
You said fires happened at the top if at all - They did not
You said all the columns had to give way at teh same time - They did not, the video footage backs this up
You said they modeled the collapse and did not take into account free fall - Again more rubbish


Question is have you read or researched anything, other than one conspiracy site?

And no they aren't going to go to court a Judge is going to look at the petition to see how many genuine signatures there are. They need a minimum of 30,000

WTC7 only reached freefall speed for ~10 floors, these were at the lower levels. The total fall time was much higher than free fall speeds.

Why not read the nist final report. Or can you not remember you saying I was referencing old nist reports, which you obviously hadn't clicked on as I showed you it was 2008 final.
 
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well when it comes to speculation, now there is somthing i can do... try...

speculation as to how they got the explosives into the building, logisitically it had to be spray on or roll on therimite in its more modern nano therimite form which is high grade military explosive.

security had to be compromised prior to the day and countless witness gave testimony on work being done in the building at weird hours and weird scenarios etc.

the whole argument that too many people would need to be involved is not an argument because in history operations with over 50 000 people have occured with it staying classified for over 30 years.

but 9/11 used compartmentalization and they would have killed off any loose ends as well, but what i say here is highly classified...
 
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