FSX New Build. Spec?

That's a 3-4yr old game.
You don't need i7 for it.

I might just DL it and see how it works on my 555be for the lols of it.

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And at this res, everything is GPU limited ; ).
 
I just built a system for FSX with an i5 bundle at 4Ghz, 4Gb RAM and an ATI 5850. Unfortunately the GPU had to go back for RMA but will know better tomorrow. My mate built a similar system and it has no problems. You probably don't need an i7.
 
ringo747 said:
I just built a system for FSX with an i5 bundle at 4Ghz, 4Gb RAM and an ATI 5850. Unfortunately the GPU had to go back for RMA but will know better tomorrow. My mate built a similar system and it has no problems. You probably don't need an i7.
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Hi,

What fps is your mate getting on his with max everything?? (presuming its the same spec as yours)

Matt
 
I can only guess, LOADS of fps tbh, considering that ppl could get 20fps with p4 rigs ...
And you don't really need anything more than 40fps anyways, anything above 35 is silky smooth.
 
PhoenixUK said:
I can only guess, LOADS of fps tbh, considering that ppl could get 20fps with p4 rigs ...
And you don't really need anything more than 40fps anyways, anything above 35 is silky smooth.
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Hi,

I cant see how anybody is getting a stable 20fps with a p4 rig?

Perhaps in straight flight with low detail but turning, descending, climbing etc with high detail there is no way they are getting anywhere near 20fps

Matt
 
There is no way a 3-4yr old game can use anywhere near half of i7s power.
Well maybe if u run it on 20 monitors.

Why would they design a game that will only be playable in 3yrs time with newest rig?
 
Well put it this way. I have been using fsx on a intel core 2duo 3.06ghz, 4gb ram and geforce 9400m graphics and with everything on full I struggle to get 20fps in straight flight and through turns etc I get under 10fps!!
 
matthewprince said:
Hi,

What fps is your mate getting on his with max everything?? (presuming its the same spec as yours)

Matt
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Not too sure but hopefully I'll get up and running tomorrow again once my new card arrives. Been a week since I built system now and not got to use it in anger yet!

Apparently some of the terrain mesh addons improve performance so thats worth looking at. I have FS Genesis and REX (real environment extreme) - might throw in UTX for the landclass and then thats it sorted.
 
matthewprince said:
Hi,

How could that graphics card be better than the Ati 5770?? , the 5770 has double the memory clock and much more processing cores?

Matt
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Have to remember that FSX was first released over 3 years ago and back then the 9000 series was the rolls royce of GPU's, FSX dosent support crossfire or the latest shader models, direct X, etc. Most ATI cards perform worse then Nvidia cards in fsx so whether you throw a brand spanking new 5000 series card at it you want see hardly any increase in FPS. FSX is one of the few games that is more CPU intensive than GPU. Like i said if you want to spend 200-300 pound on a modern GPU it will be overkill for FSX, processor speed is what counts faster the better.
 
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matthewprince said:
Well put it this way. I have been using fsx on a intel core 2duo 3.06ghz, 4gb ram and geforce 9400m graphics and with everything on full I struggle to get 20fps in straight flight and through turns etc I get under 10fps!!
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Maybe because it was on a laptop with crappy mobile GPU.

No matter how much the game is cpu intensive, it still needs a half decent GPU for AA/AF and high res.

After all it's the GPU that handles this stuff and not CPU.
 
Look at this youtube FSX vid in the link below. His specs are an i7 overclocked to 3.8ghz,4870x2 gpu and 12 gig ddr3. By the way this is probably the most impressive FSX vid i've ever saw graphics wise, it runs smooth as butter with zero stuttering and shed load of add-ons. IMO get a cheap 4870/90, 8800gt or 9800gtx an i7 and OC as high as you can.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK3fDTgli6Y&feature=response_watch

Also here's some FSX gpu benchmarks.
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/...008/Microsoft-Flight-Simulator-X-SP2,785.html

As you can see the newer 200 Nvidia series cards actually perform worse and ati cards suffer even more, so throwing a modern card at it could actually equal worse FPS.
 
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Have to remember that FSX was first released over 3 years ago and back then the 9000 series was the rolls royce of GPU's, FSX dosent support crossfire or the latest shader models, direct X, etc. Most ATI cards perform worse then Nvidia cards in fsx so whether you throw a brand spanking new 5000 series card at it you want see hardly any increase in FPS. FSX is one of the few games that is more CPU intensive than GPU. Like i said if you want to spend 200-300 pound on a modern GPU it will be overkill for FSX, processor speed is what counts faster the better.
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Hi,

If it doesn't support crossfire why does that chap on YouTube have 2 ati's?

Also doesnit support SLi? If so would i get a better result with 2 lower end nvidias?
 
Hi.
You may be interested in this link - lot's of advice here from the man who knows ;)
http://www.forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?showtopic=30796
My old rig performed much better using Mathijs FSX configuration advice. Despite what the "min spec" says on the box, FSX requires some muscle unless you are prepared to settle for mediocre realism and continual "trade-offs".
There's a lot of hype around with regard to FSX and "multi-gpu's/quad cores/support this/support that" etc and, to the best of my knowledge, none of it has been refined into one basket to give you the "spec for FSX" computer.
My old rig of 5yrs or so home-built:
Asus A8NSLI - Athlon 64x2 [email protected] - 2G Corsair XMS DDR2 400 matched pr - 2 x MSI NX8600 GTS in SLi - 250G WD Caviar - Seasonic S12 600w PSU - WinXP.
This was pretty cool for FS9 :cool: then FSX & Acceleration arrived as a gift and acute miscontent reigned supreme :eek:
I went back to FS9 as FSX just never did it for me but not before spending hours trawling the net/sim forums for the answer (like you) :).
There is no ideal rig as it's down to what you are prepared to accept and be satisfied with visually (and financially), and in this there is an enormous difference from person to person.
You do need a powerful CPU (which will dictate the mobo) and a powerful VGA (get the best you can afford)(Xfire/SLi it later when you have the cash and if you feel the need). I would regard 4G of RAM minimum which can be added to when you have more cash (this means a 64bit OS).
The size of your PSU will be dictated by your hardware choice now and for the future.
I have just read your decision on what to buy and I think it will do you fine but I would disagree with your choice of RAM. Why settle for DDR2 when the mobo supports DDR3 :confused:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-225-OK
This will eat FSX :D - put a 5770 in and Win7 and it's in your budget. Read the review. OK, you won't be putting it together yourself but when you are on a limited budget who needs smoke and RMA's :eek:
 
Hi,

Ok..... after watching that youtube video and scouting around on the net , ive decided!! Will be buying this this weekend at OCUK....

Intel Core i7 920 D0 Stepping (SLBEJ) 2.66Ghz (Nehalem) (Socket LGA1366)
Asus P6T SE Intel X58 (Socket 1366) DDR3 Motherboard
Corsair XMS3 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 (1600MHz) Tri-Channel
Powercolor ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache
Sony Optiarc DRU-870S 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black)
NZXT Gamma Mid-Tower Case - Black
Antec TruePower New Modular 650W Power Supply
BenQ G2420HDBL 24" Widescreen LED Monitor
Saitek Cyborg Illuminated Gamers Keyboard - Multi-Colour Backlight
Already have a decent wireless mouse
Logitech X-210 2.1 Speaker System
Saitek Pro Flight Yoke System
Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals
Creative Fatal1ty Gaming Headset
TrackIR 5.0 Pro
Microsoft FSX Gold Edition

Grand Total : £1401.74

I think thats a better system as it has the i7, tri channel ,memory, only 1 monitor but with the trackir that will make up for it for a while and i am replacing my FSX with the FSX gold which has the accelration pack.

Good System??
 
quadcore said:
Hi.
You may be interested in this link - lot's of advice here from the man who knows ;)
http://www.forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?showtopic=30796
My old rig performed much better using Mathijs FSX configuration advice. Despite what the "min spec" says on the box, FSX requires some muscle unless you are prepared to settle for mediocre realism and continual "trade-offs".
There's a lot of hype around with regard to FSX and "multi-gpu's/quad cores/support this/support that" etc and, to the best of my knowledge, none of it has been refined into one basket to give you the "spec for FSX" computer.
My old rig of 5yrs or so home-built:
Asus A8NSLI - Athlon 64x2 [email protected] - 2G Corsair XMS DDR2 400 matched pr - 2 x MSI NX8600 GTS in SLi - 250G WD Caviar - Seasonic S12 600w PSU - WinXP.
This was pretty cool for FS9 :cool: then FSX & Acceleration arrived as a gift and acute miscontent reigned supreme :eek:
I went back to FS9 as FSX just never did it for me but not before spending hours trawling the net/sim forums for the answer (like you) :).
There is no ideal rig as it's down to what you are prepared to accept and be satisfied with visually (and financially), and in this there is an enormous difference from person to person.
You do need a powerful CPU (which will dictate the mobo) and a powerful VGA (get the best you can afford)(Xfire/SLi it later when you have the cash and if you feel the need). I would regard 4G of RAM minimum which can be added to when you have more cash (this means a 64bit OS).
The size of your PSU will be dictated by your hardware choice now and for the future.
I have just read your decision on what to buy and I think it will do you fine but I would disagree with your choice of RAM. Why settle for DDR2 when the mobo supports DDR3 :confused:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-225-OK
This will eat FSX :D - put a 5770 in and Win7 and it's in your budget. Read the review. OK, you won't be putting it together yourself but when you are on a limited budget who needs smoke and RMA's :eek:
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Hi,

Thanks for the reply. It does actually include DDR3 in the system not DDR2?

Matt
 
matthewprince said:
Hi,

Well after much research i have decided on what im getting and im over the moon. I have got (in my view) a very poweful system, 3x monitors for eyefinity(all have displayports), saitek rudder, yoke and throttle controls and decent memory, graphics card etc etc

What do you think?

AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 955 Black Edition 3.20GHz (Socket AM3)
Asus M4A79XTD Evo (Socket AM3) DDR3 Motherboard
G.Skill Ripjaw 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C8 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit
Powercolor ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache
LG GH22NS50 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black)
NZXT Gamma Mid-Tower Case - Black
Antec TruePower New Modular 650W Power Supply
3x Dell Professional P2210H 21.5" Widescreen LCD Monitor (all displayports)
Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop 3000
Logitech X-210 2.1 Speaker System
Saitek Pro Flight Yoke System
Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals

Total : £1396.97 inc of vat
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you cant use 3 display port monitors matey, you need two normal dvi/vga port monitors and 1 display port monitor :) will save you a lot haha!
 
buttkinz said:
you cant use 3 display port monitors matey, you need two normal dvi/vga port monitors and 1 display port monitor :) will save you a lot haha!
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Hi,

Im not having the 3 monitors now anyway but what i meant is they are all displayport , and all have dvi aswell. So i would have run 1 off displayport and the other 2 off dvi


Matt
 
matthewprince said:
Hi,

If it doesn't support crossfire why does that chap on YouTube have 2 ati's?

Also doesnit support SLi? If so would i get a better result with 2 lower end nvidias?
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To my knowledge the 4870x2 is two 4870's on a single card so it only uses one PCIe slot, So it isn't a crossfire configuration. Still you can't argue with the guys results in his vid. Well im building an fsx i7 920 rig now with 6 gig ddr3 but i already have a 9800gtx from my old system so i'm going to benchmark it with the 9800 before opting to buy a 5000 series card to see which gets the best results.
 
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