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Argentina imposes shipping rules to the falklands.
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Brazil also kept the remaining Shrike missile.
You do know we have three carriers don't you? are you sure one of those wasn't HMS Invincible which is currently decomissioned with a claimed time to deployment of 18 months, many suspect longer.
The other maybe in port but that does not mean it is ready for sea, the current standing force is two carriers one either deployed or at 48hrs notice to deploy with a second either in refit or ready to be deployed after a period of unsepcified notice. Refit does not necessarily mean dry dock.
I can see that working out well.
"Excuse me Sir Jock Stirrup, I believe that the Falklands are very poorly defended now and if taken by the Argentinians we would have little chance of getting them back. Off the record is that true?"
"Why yes, RDM, don't breathe a word to any Argies about this, but frankly the Falklands are theirs for the taking!"
Nice, thats not how it works and you know it. If you have conversations with people that know and understand the situation you get a very strong feeling from them and it has been the same since the time of the last Strategic Defence Review.
Yes I am fully aware we have three carriers, and neither of the two I saw were Invincible. I was actually on Ark briefly and was told that Lusty had just moved berth from in front of her (to make space for HMS Dauntless) and had it's position in harbour pointed out to me. Neither was in refit
Yup, it's a good thing they don't know how inadequate we would be at defending the falklands!
Oh wait, they don't know that because the opposite is true.
Yes I am fully aware we have three carriers, and neither of the two I saw were Invincible. I was actually on Ark briefly and was told that Lusty had just moved berth from in front of her (to make space for HMS Dauntless) and had it's position in harbour pointed out to me. Neither was in refit
So that gives you one carrier at imediate readiness, two if you can afford an indeterminate wait, and this is by no means the everyday situation which I'm sure you will agree to as the active carrier is quite often at sea on deployment.
Still dosn't answer the merchant shipping problem, the escort problem the lack of dedicated air superiority problem, the lack of available troops problem etc etc etc
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I <3 Thatcher. This is all.
Drilling starts later this year
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Yeah, the government has financed a mobile drilling platform to head out there to do test drills, to see if it’s viable to start full drilling operations. Realistically its still be several years before we start receiving oil from the there. But as said before potential there is as much oil/gas round the island as there is in the North sea.
Gas is always a problem when drilling into the seabed, but technology as advanced to try and stop that happening. Also we are now drilling at deeper depth than ever before. Upto and beyond 8000 ft of water depth.
The government would not let anything happen to these potential fields.
Haha, having just checked up on my own facts I've discovered in the past two weeks Lusty has gone into refit in Rosyth
Oh well, I never claimed to be a matelot, I'll stick to air power in future!
So thats one carrier then with one at extended notice, still facy setting sail for the south atlantic with argentine subs in waiting?
your be amazed what can be done at a time of war, cancel all hoildays. bring in reserves, do some of the work needed while already at sea
because they don't have the political will to at the moment, if an invasion comes it will coincide with a period of political unrest in Argentina much like the last time. There is nothing like a little off shore action to distract from troubles at home, ask Maggie or think about it next time the Australian government starts debating removing the queen as head of state.
China could re-claim Taiwan tomorrow without firing a single bullet but she is biding her time for when it is politically savy to do so.
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Ermmm this is getting silly now.
The UK has 12 active Nuclear subs, the Argies wouldn’t even dare declare war on a Nuclear superpower with 185 active warheads.
Its all codswallop in here.
They have 3 subs in active service, not exactly a massive fleet
your be amazed what can be done at a time of war, cancel all hoildays. bring in reserves, do some of the work needed while already at sea
It's not quite that simple, she is fully decomissioned it would be months before her engines could even be run, sending her to war would be like trying to recomission a musem ship.
they did once before when we were a nuclear super power capable of wiping there major cities from the map?
Not massive but when you are running a single capital ship it only takes one torpedo to change the tide of war. There submarines are reasonably modern and reasonably capable unlike there surface fleet which is a mess.
During the last war we were that concerned about loosing one of two Carriers that Hermes stayed well out of the conflict zone operating her planes at almost maximum range, we would be even more nervous if forced to rely on a single small carrier.