Think your using what I said out of context or I misunderstood what you were saying or something - I've been saying March/April limited launch and May for the rest for months.
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Fermi delayed till May
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Think your using what I said out of context or I misunderstood what you were saying or something - I've been saying March/April limited launch and May for the rest for months.
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Maybe, maybe not. I just said your reasons weren't really valid:
1) We don't know whether the delay is for a base respin or not
2) We don't know for certain that it actually will be released in May or not. nVidia don't have a good record on sticking to release dates recently
3) We don't know if it will be fixed
There isn't enough information in the public domain to determine whether Charlie is right or not. IMO if you accept that his basic facts are correct (very poor yields, heat and clock issues) and link them with what ATi have said about their problems with the 40nm process his conclusions aren't unreasonable. I'll trust him on needing 6 months for a base respin unless someone with actual knowledge of the processes involved disputes it, but it sounds reasonable.
Time will tell whether his predictions are right or wrong, most likely it'll be a bit of both. What is pointless is people just saying 'ah he's not trust worthy' without debating the facts or conclusions he draws from them, which could actually be interesting
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Well as this has been confirmed as a delay by nvidia can we knock off the whole it's going to plan part some constantly state in relation to fermi now. Clearly there is something wrong and i am not just talking about the production side of it no leaked benchies also now has me worried because if they had a true monster on their hands we would have seen something by now whether they could deliver the card now or in six months. This is not good for anyone and while i don't like nvidia i like competition and i like level playing fields none of which we have now.
I reckon they have actually gone straight to 28nm, that's why it is so delayed, and at launch the GTX480 will be 3 times the speed of the 5870
They should do... trying to get GF100 onto 40nm was a silly move seeing as they already had massive problems with the process for the 212 and were forced to ditch it when ATI pulled the DX11 card.
Won't ATI have a faster card to beat it by then?
Aslong as nVidia can get the GF100 onto sub 40nm that won't be an issue... if they are stuck on 40nm or they are massively delayed getting it onto a 32/28nm process then its going to be a major problem.
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Maybe, maybe not. I just said your reasons weren't really valid:
1) We don't know whether the delay is for a base respin or not
2) We don't know for certain that it actually will be released in May or not. nVidia don't have a good record on sticking to release dates recently
3) We don't know if it will be fixed
There isn't enough information in the public domain to determine whether Charlie is right or not. IMO if you accept that his basic facts are correct (very poor yields, heat and clock issues) and link them with what ATi have said about their problems with the 40nm process his conclusions aren't unreasonable. I'll trust him on needing 6 months for a base respin unless someone with actual knowledge of the processes involved disputes it, but it sounds reasonable.
Time will tell whether his predictions are right or wrong, most likely it'll be a bit of both. What is pointless is people just saying 'ah he's not trust worthy' without debating the facts or conclusions he draws from them, which could actually be interesting
Charlie isn't that far off the truth - he sensationalises every tiny scrap of anti-nVidia info he can get and blows things out of proportion - but much of his information does come from good sources.
well say goodbye to affordable GPUs/ and the market moving like it is atm
apart form the few rebrands
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*sigh*
I agree with RizalaKing. If Fermi really was as good as all the fanboys think it is, Nvidia would be showing off tons of benchmarks. Silence is an indication that Fermi is probably having trouble beating the all-powerfull, current single-GPU King: ATI's Radeon HD 5870. Will we even see a Nvidia videocard that bests a Radeon 5870 in 2010? Bad rumors are running rampant.
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FFS i was hoping to get another 5870 next month
Ok that's a bit out of line...
Besides perhaps he thought he was getting a good deal once... (or twice)... only to get home and see the card perform the same as his 8800.
But any sub 40nm shrink will take somewhere between 12 to 18 ( TSMC maybe more like 20 ) by then ATI will on its 3rd full generation dx11 28nm card and Nvidia will just find themselves in the same position now but with a warehouse full of obsolete graphics cards.