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Fermi delayed till May

Rroff said:
Some of the media thats been shown just looks too good... stuff like that rarely actually looks as good on release day.
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That's true, though we've got a video of some one actually playing it rather than it being a direct video of the game, if you get what I mean?
 
Rroff said:
I hope crysis 2 engine does live upto some of the hype. Sadly I don't think it will.
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I wonder, with the CryEngine 3 being cross-platform does that mean the PC version has watered-down effects ie. worse than Crysis?

I mean the generational difference in graphics tech between the consoles and computers is huge. I'm curious to see what it'll look like on the consoles though..
 
rounddodger said:
I wonder, with the CryEngine 3 being cross-platform does that mean the PC version has watered-down effects ie. worse than Crysis?

I mean the generational difference in graphics tech between the consoles and computers is huge. I'm curious to see what it'll look like on the consoles though..
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There are youtube videos of it on consoles.

The differences between the PC and console version is what I'd call huge.
 
kylew said:
There are youtube videos of it on consoles.

The differences between the PC and console version is what I'd call huge.
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This. Crytek are doing what ideally every dev would do, but for most is simply unworkable. They're developing different software for each platform, so the PC version will work just as if it had only been made for PC, similar for X360, PS3.
 
With the right scalable engine architecture (something id have apparently nailed with rage/idtech5) you can create games in a way that automatically progressively builds the world for a target platform.
 
Rroff said:
With the right scalable engine architecture (something id have apparently nailed with rage/idtech5) you can create games in a way that automatically progressively builds the world for a target platform.
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I've read about ID's scalable engine, sounds a bit hopeful to me really.

The most memorable thing was the dynamic megatextures.
 
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Well this isn't good.

Part of me thinks "Serves them right, all the card renaming, locking PhysX out to ATI, etc. etc. they can stand to lose a bit of cash and learn a lesson".

But the other part is actually concerned. This Fermi debacle is going on far longer than is healthy.
 
kylew said:
It's a decent example, how ever, the person who made the video has been a little unfair.

They're comparing the console version of CryEngine 3 to the PC CryEngine 2 on Max settings.

It's obvious that the console version won't look as good due to hardware restrictions.
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As long as it doesn't have a detrimental affect on the graphics of the PC version.

Crysis does look damn beautiful on V.High though must admit, can't wait to upgrade and get on Win 7 soon.
 
drunkenmaster said:
THe 5870 is bigger than it was planned due to design sacrifices made to accomodate TSMC's crappy process. Nvidia didn't do these things, and can barely make their cores, they will need to incorporate them under their 28nm design as all the biggest problems within TSMC's 40nm process are still there in their 28nm process. So Nvidia literally have no choice but to sacrifice some die space to bus/shaders/rendering cell, or simply add die size with the modifications. The design, large and inefficient, is simply not suitable for large scale production these days, its why everyone else on earth has gone for small sizes and more efficiency rather than brute force.

One day Nvidia will learn that lesson.
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Interesting how the 5870's big size was thanks to TSMC and not thanks to ATI. Wow, quite an eye opener. Not only is ATI better than Nvidia (right now untill Fermi is finally released), but ATI struggled with TSMC's manufaucturing side of the playing field and still scored the winning goal, as they say in soccer, or, in the UK, "football." (hehe)

Nvidia might have made a good Fermi videocard that was better than the 5870, and TSMC could have rejected it due to manufacturing limitations.

Is TSMC to blame for all of the Fermi delays?
 
Depends how you look at it. nVidia knew of the problems for ages and still tried to ram the same design through before the process was ready for it. That said TSMC made a lot of promises they didn't live upto as well.
 
TSMC have a lot to answer forto both nvidia and ati but no they are not solely to blame for all fermi's woes. Nvidia has to take a large part of the blame here with a seemingly unrealistic expectation of the process and a reluctence to adapt to it's short comings sooner. I don't expect TSMC to really up their game till they have too once GF opens and is providing competition and they will continue to be a consideration that neither company would like to have to consider.
 
RizlaKing said:
TSMC have a lot to answer forto both nvidia and ati but no they are not solely to blame for all fermi's woes. Nvidia has to take a large part of the blame here with a seemingly unrealistic expectation of the process and a reluctence to adapt to it's short comings sooner. I don't expect TSMC to really up their game till they have too once GF opens and is providing competition and they will continue to be a consideration that neither company would like to have to consider.
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Hmm, yes, I guess Nvidia will have to score the same metaphorical goal that ATI scored on TSMC with the 5870's changed design to fit TSMC's requirements. Stupid TSMC :rolleyes: How many times has TSMC been to blame for one thing or another in this videocard war?

Agreed, great cartoon Orangey! :D
 
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