Poll: What is your religion?

What is your religion?

  • Christian

    Votes: 94 14.0%
  • Muslim

    Votes: 31 4.6%
  • Jewish

    Votes: 3 0.4%
  • Sikh

    Votes: 12 1.8%
  • Hindu

    Votes: 8 1.2%
  • Buddhist

    Votes: 6 0.9%
  • Atheist

    Votes: 236 35.2%
  • Other

    Votes: 37 5.5%
  • Agnostic

    Votes: 155 23.1%
  • Jedi

    Votes: 88 13.1%

  • Total voters
    670
That's fair enough, I disagree though.

Left to their own devices, good people will do strive to do good things, evil people will strive to do evil things, but if you want a good person to do evil things then you need religion.

True, religion does have a habit of doing that, but couldn't you simply replace religion with some other form of authority? Sure religion does make 'good' people do 'evil' things but I'd hardly cite it as a requirement.

Also who says what's good and evil? What if someone does not agree with your version of good and evil, would that not create the oppurtunity for some form of conflict? Surely if that is the case then we would eventually have to develop some form of authority that regulates what's good and evil. Would this simply not be another form of religion? Sure, it may not come dressed up like it is today, but the potential for conflict will still be there.
 
Also who says what's good and evil? What if someone does not agree with your version of good and evil, would that not create the oppurtunity for some form of conflict? Surely if that is the case then we would eventually have to develop some form of authority that regulates what's good and evil. Would this simply not be another form of religion? Sure, it may not come dressed up like it is today, but the potential for conflict will still be there.
I'm sorry, but I don't see the events of 9/11 as a morally grey area. No morally sound atheist would even consider acting in this way or doing something like this. I agree with you saying there are things that exist that could be considered 'grey.' However, the horrific, barbaric, disgusting acts I'm referring to could only be carried out by somebody that believed they had divine endorsement.
 
I'm sorry, but I don't see the events of 9/11 as a morally grey area. No morally sound atheist would even consider acting in this way or doing something like this. I agree with you saying there are things that exist that could be considered 'grey.' However, the horrific, barbaric, disgusting acts I'm referring to could only be carried out by somebody that believed they had divine endorsement.

No morally sound Muslim could act in the way that caused 9/11, just as no morally sound atheist could behave like Stalin or Mao...
 
However, the horrific, barbaric, disgusting acts I'm referring to could only be carried out by somebody that believed they had divine endorsement.

I don't think Mengele was particularly religious.


Although is funny that you say no morally sound atheist would as if its the atheism making him morally sound.

A morally sound religious person would not have done it either.
 
No morally sound Muslim could act in the way that caused 9/11, just as no morally sound atheist could behave like Stalin or Mao...
I wouldn't use Stalinism as an example as Stalinist Russia, like North Korea is, was an extremely religious state. Just not a supernatural one.

I don't know much about Maoism and his 'Great Leap Forward' so would be unable to offer much input to that.

EDIT: Perhaps the word 'worshipful' maybe more descriptive of what I'm trying to convey.
 
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I'm sorry, but I don't see the events of 9/11 as a morally grey area. No morally sound atheist would even consider acting in this way or doing something like this. I agree with you saying there are things that exist that could be considered 'grey.' However, the horrific, barbaric, disgusting acts I'm referring to could only be carried out by somebody that believed they had divine endorsement.

Although that said, no 'morally sound' religious person would do anything like that either. Right and wrong only exist because we make them so.
 
I don't think Mengele was particularly religious.
I don't know about Mengele personally, but the Hitler himself was a Roman Catholic, and the Catholic Church celebrated his birthday every year until his death. I'm fairly certain that nearly every fascist (including National Socialism) regime has been endorsed by the Catholic church and they've, thus far, found no means to apologise for it.
 
However, the horrific, barbaric, disgusting acts I'm referring to could only be carried out by somebody that believed they had divine endorsement.

Or maybe they were just plain evil?

That said, I still would not consider events on the scale of 9/11 to be truely outside the grey area. After all many people were perfectly fine with the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings.
 
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